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    • May 7, 2017 3:42 PM BST
    • *looking around the room*  Who, me?  (smile)  Thnx Robin....jus' playin' it forward!!!

      Miss you!


    • May 7, 2017 12:44 PM BST
    • Traci is a great source of advice, trust me! ❤️

    • May 4, 2017 11:50 PM BST
    • Glad to help! (smile)


    • May 4, 2017 11:32 PM BST
    • That is quite a recommendation.  Thank you. xoxo

    • May 4, 2017 11:28 PM BST
    • While I have not used it, I know a couple of girls who swear by it (Kathy Perez)...I also recently spoke via phone to one of them and she totally blew me away with her voice!  So natural...BTW, she is an airline pilot here in the US and has to use her voice all the time! (smile)


    • May 4, 2017 6:08 PM BST
    • Hi everyone.  I am working to find my true female voice.  I have seen a number of courses on the internet.  The one that has gotten my attention  was advertised on GS.  It is the 30 Day Crash course by Kathe Perez.  I am curious if anyone has used this course, and how it has worked for you?  Also, if you have not used this course, have you used another, and were you satisfied with the results. 


      I appreciate your feedback.



    • April 18, 2017 2:39 PM BST
    • I know this addresses an old post, but the Photofeeler attracted my interest. I posted my avatar picture and waited a couple of weeks. I got 165 people rating me. Only 10% rated me as attractive. WoW what a blow to my confidence. Be advised, this hurts. Now having said that, this is a very young group. I may be the oldest contestant. They did rate be high in trustworthy however, so I guess thats something.

    • January 26, 2017 6:29 PM GMT
    • I don't think I could stand being rated. My outside does not come close to matching my inside. That really bothers me.

    • October 5, 2016 10:44 PM BST
    • I don't think I would want to be rated,   I would take it hard if I did'nt get votes that I thought I deserved,   We used to have a rate my picture on here, I always gave everyone a 10 out of 10, but some members  deliberately rate other members 1 out of 10 to boost there own positions.

    • October 1, 2016 4:15 PM BST
    • There is a website called that takes any photo you post there and has other members rating it on various items. The good thing about it is that no names, e-mails, sexuality, or anything is tied to the photo. It's a great way to see how others respond to your image without the fear of being clocked. Of course, you have to register and rate other people's pictures to get them to rate yours, but that is a small price to pay.

      I put up a picture of me enfemme from years ago. I was rated as confident, but not very fun. :-( I have work to do....

    • January 18, 2017 7:51 PM GMT
    • My meter is stuck on "I don't give a f*ck"!  Must be broken!  LOL


    • January 12, 2017 7:25 PM GMT
    • Great idea! XD "Captain, IDGAF is at full charge!"

    • January 12, 2017 5:32 PM GMT
    • As far as other less discerning people, get yourself one of these, :)

    • January 9, 2017 2:41 PM GMT
    • All of this: Confidence, Beliving in yourself.


      I had a really bad life before. Once I came out, sure there are some haters, some stares, some harassment - but: I meet many friendly people, a few guys hitting on me, elderly men holding a door and winking, and women asking me for fashion tips or literally asking me to help them pick out a clothing gift for their family member.


      My voice is still my worst tell, I'm still trying to learn the inflections. But - confidence: my new friends rely on me, my female friends look to me for strength, think of me as "Thank goodness Anna is here with those rough-looking people", etcetera. I'm a big girl, and I just do what I want - bold makeup, heels or wedgies, anime-style hair, a lip piercing. Some people are scared of me, some nasty people stare, but I was never liked or respected in my old life either, and now I like and respect *myself*. :)



    • January 5, 2017 6:52 PM GMT
    • Robin & Traci, you are both amazing people, I have been here on GS a while and seen you both evolve, what you both have achieved is astounding, each doing it your own way.   I need nothing from this site personally, apart from the desire to help where I can, from my own experiences, some things I have done, the seedy side of my life in the past, but I have achieved so much, after a pretty rotten childhood.   Some people don't like me or trust me, think I'm a fake because I don't mix with some of the more outlandish types, been there and done that, but what the FK do I care, some envy me because I look not half bad.  but I'm the one with the law degree now, contentment and confidence through perserverence, even if my voice sounds like a bag of spanners. ust plod on enjoy the real you.

    • January 4, 2017 5:19 PM GMT
    • OMG, you have soooooooo nailed it!  (smile)  Truly you must act like you belong on this planet as much as anyone else without wavering or doubting yourself!

      Yes, voice is a huge challenge, but not a big as we all fear worst, like yourself, just learn to string your words in a sing song manner.  For me, without coaching, I have learned to speak "softer" with inflection.  It seems to work.

      The last and perhaps the biggest thing you can do to pass is invest in permanent facial hair removal.  It is called electrolysis.  It is expensive, time consuming, and at times, painful.  That said, to not have to apply makeup to cover shadow or worry about hair nubs after a full day of living, is liberating.  I am not finished but can go 48 hours without any trace...I'll shave whatever is emerging on the third day and I'm good for two more days...where it gets challenging is when I have scheduled a session and have to let it grow for 5 or 6 days, hence I cannot live full time year round...but it is something that I say is a MUST!

      Robin, you're awesome and give me too much credit for your accomplishments.  It was all you GF, I just was there for you...I always will be!


      Traci xoxo


    • January 4, 2017 12:23 AM GMT
    • Early on in my transition, my biggest mentors, Traci O'Gara and Christine Shye, said the biggest factor in passing is confidence. And how true this turns out to be. As it says in the headline to this forum, so many other factors come into play. Even when you have mastered makeup, hair, style, and subtle gestures that people instinctively make their split-second decision on, you are left with your voice. This is probably one of the biggest stumbling blocks to successful passing. But, fear not! Even though I've worked on my voice, without a voice coach, I can't afford everything(!), I find that even though I am always called "sir" on the phone, in public that is not the case. People have usually already made up their mind, during that split-second unconscious decision, whether you are male or female. So when I speak, using a sing-song string of words, using a lot of inflection, especially at the end of my sentence, my deeper voice is dismissed as just that, a deeper voice. Never has a cisgender female said anything about my voice....and working in retail, I talk to A LOT of women! My secret? Confidence. I don't question my gender. Ok I may not be as swank and have such a delicious body as many women I see (so green with envy) but I am who I am. I'll admit the beach and yoga, where there is not much to hide my wonderful physique, confidence and being in the "role" makes a difference. I never thought I'd be here, but as you feel comfortable and confident with each phase of your transition, one day you will realize that all of your changes have taken over without any thought, it's natural and not "forced." You are really living as yourself now, Believe in yourself and so will others.

    • January 4, 2017 11:47 PM GMT
    • Love your posts on this subject! Thank you!

    • June 6, 2016 11:04 PM BST
    • Another great example is when I introduced my husband to the music group Yaz (Yazoo as they are known in their home country of England). He said, "I like his voice," and I said, "it's a her!" Alison Moyet! If you don't know them, listen to "Situation," "Only You," "Don't Go," and why my husband could have gotten confused, "Mr. Blue." I'm Mr Blue, I'm here to stay with you, and no matter what you do, when you're lonely, I'll be lonely too..."

      And what about the great incomparable Annie Lennox, beautiful solo artist and lead singer of The Eurythmics? Both have gorgeous, masculine-sounding voices that are very pleasing to the ear. They are legends in my eyes...

    • June 6, 2016 6:37 PM BST
    • An eye opening article on high T women (hair growth, deep voice, masculine jawline)...I copy and pasted a part about voice...I will be discussing hairlines and jawlines in my next forum post, so keep an eye out:

      He says that the differences can be very noticeable, or they can even be subtle, but in most cases they are noticed during puberty. For example, a girl can develop a very deep voice as a result of having high level of hormones.

      “A girl’s vocal cords grow a bit during puberty but when the testosterone hormones tend to be too much, then the voice grows deeper. Some may even develop a husky voice as a result of smoking or drinking, but this is just a consequence of a habit,” Sindabimenya says.

    • June 6, 2016 6:36 PM BST
    • I wrote the above title because when you search Elizabeth Holmes deep voice online, one site said "she's got a deeper voice than most dudes" and another comment/site said that they wanted to bend her over [sick, expletive, perverse words]. So many people online are rude, sick, and demented. But back to the title, it's true, some men have high-pitched voices like my brother, and many other get ma'am on the phone, for example when I worked for a doctor for a short time in the Army (I was an army medical specialist for three years) on speaker phone he would always always always get ma'am, I'd feel bad for him. So yes, she has a deeper voice than many men!

    • June 6, 2016 6:29 PM BST
    • No need to fret about your voices, ladies! I'm sure you all sound great. All women from all walks of life can have deeper voices. Including myself. When I went through puberty, I remember my voice cracking for a while, then it sounded deeper. All people go through voice changes to varying degrees. And some genetic women have higher levels of testosterone since birth and puberty (myself included), creating deeper voices than the typical, high-pitched female or ultra-femme female. Personally--not just because I have one--I think lower-pitched voices in women are sexier, connotes a higher level of intelligence, and is more tolerable to the human ear (a high-pitched voice can get annoying and grating).

      Last June I went to my grandfather's funeral (he lived to 93!) and my brother (the middle child; I have two older brothers) who I hadn't seen in a long time, one of the first things he said to me was that my voice sounded deeper.  I felt a little self-conscious, so I blurted out, yours sounds higher!  He actually didn't get offended and said yeah, I always get ma'am when I talk to someone on the phone.  So for the rest of the day and the day after I tried talking in a higher pitched voice, but of course I can't do that long term, so I went back to my usual voice.  My voice sounds similar to Lisa Marie Presley, here:

      From "See, that’s the shocking thing about Lisa Marie Presley. She’s a girl singer who doesn’t do girl things. She hardly ever smiles, and she speaks in a low voice. Those two facts alone make her seem like a fascinating, subversive rebel. In an era of ubiquitous squealy-high speaking voices, Lisa Marie’s low, unexcited tones and stony deadpan come across as almost insolent. But she’s not unfriendly, just terminally unsurprisable."

      A couple of months ago in April, a genetic woman (Elizabeth Holmes, self-made billionaire and CEO of Theranos) was giving an interview on TV and she sounded like a man!  In fact, I accidentally blurted out, is that a man?! Very wrong of me, I know. My hand is out, okay now everyone grab a ruler and stand in line and take turns slapping my hand with it! Bad me! No, she is a GG, and a prime example that there is a grey area to what constitutes masculine or feminine voices:

      I mimicked her voice perfectly and quite easily (and even made it go deeper than hers) and my husband gave me a look and shook his head side to side and said, not all women can do that, making their voices so low and "bass-y." I then gave him a fake Melanie Griffith voice and he said that's better.  I gave him a playful slap on the shoulder.  He doesn't mean it (I don't think!) In fact, I told him he needs to speak in a higher pitched voice, his super-deep bass-pitched voice is rubbing off on me!  I'm around him more than anyone else, so I end up deepening my voice even more, not good!

      Another Elizabeth Holmes clip:

      What does your voice sound like? Which celebrity do you most resemble? Overall, are you happy/content with your voice? Or is it something you don't think about or care about?

    • January 3, 2017 11:45 PM GMT
    • Huh, wha? I don't understand...?

    • December 10, 2016 9:41 PM GMT
    • Passing?

      1. Trying not to be arrested.
      2. Trying not to be trespassed/banned from various public places.
      3. Trying not to be civilly committed to a mental hospital.
      4. Trying to get customer service which other people take for granted.
      5. Doing without medical care.
      6. Doing without legal assistance.
      7. Doing without any form of lawful self-defense.
      8. Doing without any effective protection of the law.

      Who's passing here?  Certainly not the KKK / Neo-Nazi / Dixie Democrat / Arch-conservative Republican crowd.

    • January 3, 2017 11:38 PM GMT
    • Cristine, Shye BL said:

      Robin one must have a sarcastic sense of humour......, I met a boy I had been to school whith, straight out he asked me if I could now take 12 inches, crooking my little finger and wagging it in his face, I said ''The thought of having sex with you three times would be ultimately dissapointing''    As people gain more confidence, living the life, they will learn to give no credence to inane and ill thought out retorts and comments.

      Hahah! That's awesome Crissie!

    • December 10, 2016 9:33 PM GMT
    • I prefer to be called by the pronoun "Plaintiff."

    • November 21, 2016 2:34 PM GMT
    • Robin one must have a sarcastic sense of humour, years ago after I had just gone public, a neighbour stopped my guardian in the street and told her she ought to get me sorted, take me to see someone that could sort me out,, perhaps a father figure, My guardian with her Jewish sarcasm told her basically our house was the most valuable in the street, because we did'nt have weird trannies living next door to us, lowering the value of our property. perhaps in some way her stoicism and repartee have brushed of on to me.   I was asked once if wearing girls clothes realy made me feel like a woman, ''If it did'nt, I would be walking round with holes in my trouser pockets, playing with my balls and feeling a dick head.  all day''   There will always be instances in peoples lives when on reflection they think, whish I have said this or that .    After I had my surgery, I met a boy I had been to school whith, straight out he asked me if I could now take 12 inches, crooking my little finger and wagging it in his face, I said ''The thought of having sex with you three times would be ultimately dissapointing''    As people gain more confidence, living the life, they will learn to give no credence to inane and ill thought out retorts and comments.

    • November 20, 2016 11:10 PM GMT
    • Yes, I guess there really is nothing one can say to someone like that. A good stare is prob best. Thanks Crissie! ❤️❤️❤️

    • November 20, 2016 9:48 PM GMT
    • Tell her, don't say anything, just give them the look, not worth risking her job, put it down to just another ignorant troglodyte.

    • November 20, 2016 9:41 PM GMT
    • I have a trams co-worker who told me she got two "thank you sir" comments from customers in a retail store. Does anyone have a good come-back reply that is not offensive ( she could lose her job) but gets the point across you don't appreciate their kind of humiliation?

    • December 4, 2016 9:15 PM GMT
    • At first the name I chose was Jennifer Allison. I always loved both names. But later I found out that if I had been born female, I would have been named Rachael Ann. To me Rachael is a beautiful name, and I like Ann alot. But I didn't want Ann to be a middle name so I combined them to a first name. RachaelAnn. As for a middle name I haven't chosen one. I thought about going Jennifer RachaelAnn. Which is still up in the air. I guess if I go to legally change my name I'll go for the whole thing. As it sits right now, I just go by my male name.



    • June 6, 2016 11:19 PM BST
    • My dear ol' mom was convinced she was having a daughter--and she did, just not the way she expected!--and named me Katie when I was in the womb and decorated my nursery in pink. It's weird. She got pregnant later in life (unfortunately lost the baby) and knew instantly she was pregnant. She has a spooky sixth sense about this. 


      Anyhoo, despite the fact the she "knew" she was having a daughter whom she named Katie (because she liked the name) with the middle name Anne (after my aunt), out I popped with little boy tackle. 


      I know for a lot of us, choosing our name is very important. Most of us don't like our given names. It's like buying a car or a new outfit--you want to pick something to reflect who we are. But for me, I opted to go with Katie Anne--even though I don't like the name Katie--because it was chosen for me. I know it sounds hokey, but that means something to me. The feelings my mother had of me in utero were eventually realized, so it felt to me that Katie should, and had always been, my name.

    • July 23, 2016 5:52 PM BST
    • As the others have said, use an appropriate purse (handbag for us Europeans!) for where you are. A cross body bag is great for crowds and I have a couple that both zip and then buckle over which is pretty secure. I can always keep my hand on it too. Plus, make sure you have the zip at the front so it can't be tampered with behind you. 

      My everyday bags are handbags so I will either carry them in my hand or over my shoulder and again, either my hand or arm is always in contact with it to prevent someone trying to unzip it. 

      Occasionally, though, a clutch bag is ally you need although this will be for a more formal event and while they are generally without straps, (some have a small strap or chain strap hidden inside), you would normally only be using one at a particular event. They aren't for everyday use. 

      Backpack style bags are a target for thieves and pickpockets so I don't often use one of those, although I have one which buckles, zips and has a alarm if the zip is tampered with!! 

      A purse is great though as you will find out, since you have all you need there and no bulky uncomfortable items in your pockets. You will get used to it and will wonder how you ever managed without one. 

    • June 27, 2016 5:37 PM BST
    • Cristine, you took the words right out of my mouth. I wear a purse that crosses over my body 99% of the time.

      Kathi, as the resident GG, I must say, you will get used to it. It will become second nature to carry a purse. I'm a very clumsy and forgetful person, that's why I carry a shoulder cross body purse, so I never put it down and forget it. Therefore I carry it on me while grocery shopping, etc. I see women who put their purse in the grocery cart and are looking around, walking away from their cart--someone could snatch their purse right out of there! Tips: 1. hang your purse in the same place in your house at all times, 2. get a good cross body purse, 3. if you carry a handbag, never let it out of your sight, 4. don't forget it on the roof of your car, like my mom did when I was little (my dad had to run back on the freeway to fetch it) 5. you don't have to carry a purse everywhere, I've seen the rare occasion of women not carrying one, especially for quick/small errands. Finally 6. chase down that purse snatcher, grab your purse, scream at him and give him a few whacks with your purse! I've never had my purse snatched in the 3 decades I've been carrying one (knock on wood!) but if it were snatched, that's what I'd do!

      Here's me and my cross body purse at the wax mom lent me her nice Burberry purse for my vacation, otherwise, I use a very generic, utilitarian one! Sorry, the Celine Dion one came in sideways, it's this website, not me!

    • June 26, 2016 7:40 PM BST
    • Kathi, I know only to well, having had my bag snatched, car keys, house keys, purse, with all my debit and credit cards, driving licence £40 in cash. a couple of documents/letters with my address on them. mobile phone. A few items of make up.


        Do I still carry a bag? yes, its something you have to come to terms with, now I just carry the card I will be using a small amount of cash and no, personal details, a label stuck in my bag with my mobile number on it, so the police can contact me if my bag goes missing again.


      Use a shoulder bag and make sure its crossed over you body not just hung over one shoulder.

    • June 26, 2016 6:44 PM BST
    • As I get closer to going out in public, one thing scares me. THE PURSE. As a guy, I put what I need (money, ID, keys, etc.) in my pockets. Girls put these things and more in their purses. That is scary, having everything you need to function in a bag you carry. Now I know why women are afraid of purse snatchers.

      Have any of you had a phobia about purses, and how did you get over it?

    • June 15, 2016 3:10 PM BST
    • You would handle it in the same way as you would when anyone makes a pass as you. Be nice about it but let them know you aren't interested. They will move on soon enough, it really isn't an issue. If someone is making a pass at you it's because they want sex and if they aren't getting anywhere with you, they will look elsewhere. Of course, they may have an idea that you are trans and that is why they are making a pass........another male looking for his 'tranny exerience', urgh!! 

      You have to handle each situation according to the individual factors; where you are, who are you with, do you know them, do they know of your identity etc. 

      It's a far bigger issue if you do enjoy the flirting. At what point do you let them know that you are TG? That's a very individual thing and depends on many factors so there is no one size fits all answer. 

    • June 6, 2016 11:38 PM BST
    • I'm more nervous about passing in public than not. I've been recognized as trans while out and about by men who were okay with it. 


      But I'm terrified of having someone come up to me and start flirting or somesuch because he's under the impression that what's between my legs is NOT the same as what's between his. How do you handle that situation??

    • March 18, 2016 7:13 PM GMT
    • It's good to see some of these old posts ressurected as newer members may not have read them. 


      Passing is important to me of course, as it would make my day to day life much harder if I didn't. However, passing is not as difficult as you might think and yes, many GG's (shock horror) are not supermodels so they come in all shapes and sizes too. We are much more concerned about it naturally, as being born male is a pretty significant handicap but there are simple ways to pass, which do not require FFS!! 


      One of my favourite actresses, and someone I would aspire to is Sandra Bullock. Pretty, but not overly like a typical Hollywood bimbo and she has a square jaw too, but because of how she projects herself, you don't look twice. That's an important rule to passing. Look like you belong, be confident and project your femininity and you are well on the way to passing. The rest is just hair and make up. 


      It's all smoke and mirrors. 

    • March 17, 2016 11:30 PM GMT
    • Okay, so I was trying to send this as a private message, but my iPhone won't let me paste this in the message, I'm getting tired of trying to figure this out and I've got someplace to be, so here goes!!!

      Doanna, I know you haven't been here in a while, but as I was lurking through some of the old posts, I couldn't help but love your post in response to passing! Classic, as I have experienced this as a GG, or ovarian as you put it: "Lots of GG's (ovarians) don't pass in public...

      so I don't think it's as important as most people think it is..."

      You don't know how many times I've been self conscious that I look like a man! Ugh! I have a big forehead, square jaw, oh, and big head for my 5 foot tall frame. The only thing that saves me is my size, my petite feminine body, and I don't look half bad with my long hair down! Oh, and my great boob job! Just wanted to send this to you and perhaps put a smile on your face!!!

      So now that this is public, I just want to add, even I get self conscious from time to time, especially when I run out the door without any makeup on, but you just have to fuggetaboutit as they say in Donnie Brasco and not think about it. Everyone is too wrapped up in their own lives to even notice you, and if they do notice and are rude, flip 'em off...or if they stare, stare back!

    • June 8, 2016 6:02 PM BST
    • Nikki, I can't believe it, I used the same terminology in my latest OP! We're so in sync. I know you're busy, but if you get a chance, check it out:

      Voice is very important, but it is not the be all and end all. It's part of the whole package. Some transgender women have a higher pitched voice than me, and some men have higher pitched voices than some women, GG or trans women! It's all relative. That being stated, keep working on raising your pitch if you want or need to, but confidence goes a much longer way.

      Katie I wish there was a way to hear your voice, I would tell you what I think! But you have the confidence that will get you far in life, so no matter what your voice sounds like, you rock!

      Edit: oh yeah, forgot to mention that the word was fret! You said stop fretting and I said no need to fret!

    • June 6, 2016 11:11 PM BST
    • I often wonder how my voice sounds to other people. I know how it sounds to me, but I still don't know how I sound. But to me, my voice sounds awesome! Of course, but voice, I mean tone, inflections, vocal quirks and word choice. 


      But's probably deeper than I'd like it.

    • January 20, 2016 8:12 PM GMT
    • I think a lot of us worry too much about our voices, mine is very deep naturally but I have worked to make it neutral and, yes, I have GG's with deeper voices than me. People often concern themselves with pitch but there is so much more than that. It's harder for some of us to find that sweetspot due to our natural voice range but it can still be acheieved. Just relax into it and stop fretting. 

      I find the worst for me is talking on the phone, as it seems to bring out the worst in my voice, but since I can't get away from that, there is no point worrying over it. 

      Persevre and you will get there. 

    • December 11, 2015 9:45 AM GMT
    • Hi everyone

      FWIW I was always very concerned about my voice. I felt that it was the one thing that 'betrayed' me and no matter what I did it would always be a problem as either I would make some horribel and barely intelligible squawking sound or (assuming I could get it right in the firtsplace) I would be simply unable to keep up the illusion for more than a few words.

      This meant I tried very hard to not speak to people when out and about. Which of course is weird and kind of goes against the wjole reason for going out in the first place.

      Then I had the great privilege of being invited to a Halloween party/event. This event was for GGs and I felt I had to blend... I was doing ok. Acting relatively naturally and I had managed to keep the interactions natural but without having to say more than a few words...

      Then we did a group activity. The activity required us to read, out loud, for the whole group, a one page long story...

      Oh dear!

      I couldn't chicken out. So I didn't...

      I just read it as best I could. I had to project my voice so that I could be heard and this was hard. But I did it.


      Afterwards I asked my hostess for feedback and she said that my voice was fine as it is. She has female friends with deeper voices than mine.

      Essentially we need to just 'own' our voices in the same way that we 'own' our appearance.

      This was a liberating realisation for me...

    • December 3, 2015 2:12 PM GMT
    • Your thread is very interesting.  Though I can offer no advice, I do want to say I can sympathize with your situation.   I was wondering if things have improved?

    • October 22, 2015 5:19 PM BST
    • Robin...the positives are in being yourself at last...really, we are like young teens trying to sort out the world while our bodies develop.  Our minds have had the luxury of many years of life experience, which in turn ought to allow you accept the negatives easier than a 13 yr. old girl would.  I know you work many hours, but do you have any outside interests or hobbies or are you in a position where you could give of yourself to the community thru volunteering your time?  I try to live by a daily goal of making at least one person's day better each and every day.  This makes me feel real good inside and also makes it difficult for others to hate on you.  It could be something as simple as driving a neighbor to the doctor or grocery shopping for someone, raking their leaves or pitching in with their chores around their home or yard...if you have a hobby(it's music for me), maybe you can integrate into a group or club of similar interests.  I hit some open mics and have found acceptance among the music and art crowd.

      Hope this is helpful...


      Traci xoxo

    • October 15, 2015 12:31 AM BST
    • Traci, can you remind me of the positives again?

    • October 15, 2015 12:30 AM BST
    • Traci Lee O'Gara said:

      Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will be Robin!  Accept the negatives with the positives and keep inching forward...

      Traci xoxo

    • October 14, 2015 11:27 AM BST
    • Hi Robin,Thanks for sharing, yes I feel the disadvantages of not being Raised as woman also.Its not a nice aspect of being Trans,for me I can sometimes get very negative ,and begrudge having had the dose of male indoctrination and hate any reminders .It was a big thing for me not to let those negative feelings surface and lash out .Its a nice Autumn Day anyway so I will go for a bike ride. Best Wishes Donna

    • October 14, 2015 4:39 PM BST
    • I must admit I have not thought about it. I try to look my best. I am transgendered and will never look as good as a genetic female. I get some nice compliments, I don't get abuse, I has some nice commetns when out for lunch with a female friend... like enjoy your lunch ladies from the waitress. I am happy with that.