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    • May 22, 2013 11:31 PM BST
    • You should be a bit giddy too.

    • May 22, 2013 8:49 PM BST
    • Ok its your first night out ever as a female! You are nervous , here is how to look good without the nerves.

      First order a taxi/cab . Now prepare everything clothes shoes and now the make-up . Your still nervous aren't you? Go fetch that litre bottle of Whisky you were saving for an occasion like this , now open the bottle and pour a glass full and drink it , feeling better? Thats good. Now sit at your dresser with all of your make-up in front of you , What you are still nervous? Have another glass of whisky .Come on pull yourself together! Clip your hair back away from your face and apply a thin layer of primer to the whole of your face untill it is smooth.

      Now lets start with your eyes! Your still nervous? Ok just one more glass of Whisky then. Now choose two shades of eye shadow that suit your eye colour and complexion .


      Your still nervous what is wrong with you? Ok have another glass of Whisky , ok you must be calm now half the bottle has gone.

      Are you ready? Good now take an applicator and starting with your lower eye lid apply one shade (to both eyes) Now take another shade to blend in and move in an upward direction, No! not you move upward the applicator you idiot, ok just one more glass of whisky then.

      Now take your Mascara and start to brush your nose with the wand then stick it in your ear , ok just one more glass of Whisky then , you are not nervous you can't be now.

      Ok take your foundation and rub it in your hair and stop looking at that Whisky the cab will be there soon.

      Time for some blush! Take a brush and stroke it in your blusher and try really hard to put it on your cheeks in a downward stroke. Ok just one more glass of Whisky then.

      Now your lips! Find a nice colour to suit whatever your face looks like right now, now stick the lip colour up your nose and finish the bottle of Whisky off .


      Theres your cab! What do you mean you can't find your door its at the front of your house now just go you look amazing and put some shoes on.

    • March 9, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
    • Thank you Debs. No takers so far but my fingers and toes remain crossed. If you're ever in the area, just come knocking hun. The door is always open. Have a lovely evening and take good care xxxx

    • March 9, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
    • Thats a really generous offer Jen. Im sure someone will take you up on it! its a pity you didnt live in scotland or i'd be knockin on your door now. lol xx

    • March 9, 2013 7:53 AM GMT
    • PLEASE NOTE This is NOT for profit and is a genuine request

      I am a freelance Make-up artist who has started to contribute beauty tips on the Transgender Zone beauty blog site.
      I have had personal experience of transgender issues which is the reason why I am here. My cousin (and best friend) had reassignment surgery 2 years ago and I was with her at the very start of this transition journey at a time when she struggling to be accepted by friends, work colleagues and family. It was a tough journey but she came out the other end happier than she has EVER been and a complete woman. 
      Another close friend of mine resides in South Wales, who I met 11 years ago and we studied together in Bristol. (this was prior to coming home and finding out about my cousin) My friend had completed her reassignment years before we met, yet still, there were people that would not accept the situation and consequently shunned her. We are still in contact and very close friends. She came to North Wales to attend my wedding last May and my cousin was my chief bridesmaid and looked absolutely beautiful!
      Having also attended social groups with my cousin, I am well adapted to the issues faced with the transgender society and want to be able to help in anyway that I can to support this transition and giving tips on what I know best - make-up - which is a good start!
      By contributing to a blog, this has given me the opportunity to share my knowledge with others and also learn first hand about the most important issues that need to be addressed. I will then start to build up the blogs to discuss other issues which include dressing age appropriately, which is an inspired suggestion made by Transgender Zone.
      All being well, I also hope to run a make-over stall at one of the transgender advents of which discussions are being held. 
      I have joined this site as I need to find transpeople who are out and comfortable enough in having their picture taken of a before and after make-over which will accompany my blog. This of course will be completely free with no catches what so ever and definitely no sales pitch, as I am freelance and I have tons of make-up from many different brands! The model would need to sign an independent agreement to confirm that the transgender Zone forum can host the pictures.
      The make-overs will not be of a masked make-over type similar to that of a drag queen look (which is stunningly beautiful but is heavy for that purpose) or theatre prep make-up applied for a make-over photoshoot, my aim is produce a natural wearable look and I will be practising with airbrush and general application techniques. There will be colour correction and contouring involved to add shape and definition but again, my aim is to apply this in such a way that it can be worn with confidence during the day and accentuated further for the evening.
      There are many areas I would like to cover and photograph so this would take a good full day or I could split the days if this is more convenient. 
      I reside in north wales, Mold and would ask if you could come to me in the privacy of my home for this.
      Please let me know if you are interested and again, no catches and neither am I looking to gain further bookings.

      Thanks to all xxx jen xxx

    • December 17, 2012 1:18 PM GMT
    • I get my wigs from a company in the UK called Baldness Banished.

      LOL. I know, it's a weird name. The wigs are made from remy hair with a swiss lace base. You see scalp and everything and the density is light. One inch poly is put round the perimeter and it's easily secured to the head. Looks so real and it doesn't feel like it's on my head. Light as the proverbial feather!

    • September 24, 2012 1:47 PM BST
    • I use stay-ups stockings as wig caps. Just cut off the top 15-20 cm. There usally a silicone strip to hold the stocking against the leg. That silicone strip hold the wig cap in place on the head, and the stucture of the stay-up stop the wig from slipping. Works for me, and a the stay-ups get a "second life"!

    • November 23, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
    • kinda on topic i guess...whilst shopping in a "bargain" store recently i noticed eyeliner stickers!!! never heard of them before but was tempted..has anyone used them? heres a link to a similar product (cheapest one)

    • July 31, 2012 7:59 AM BST
    • I have always had difficulty with Kohl pencils for lining the water line - after about an hour, the line was gone.

      However, after a lot of testing, I have found one that does last (not all day, but for around 4 or 5 hours) and that is the the 'Master Drama' Kohl liner from Maybelline. Very intense black or if you want a more subtle shade, try one of the dark greys.

      Around £3.50 from Boots

    • March 22, 2012 1:28 AM GMT
    • Thanks Tammy!

    • March 20, 2012 3:24 AM GMT
    • Hi Robin,

      Here are some links to the type of brushes that might help you for a fine eye shadow line.

      Also, as far as gels are concerned, I have not had to much luck with gels, and I have tried many, maybe some other girls in here have had good experience with them. I have always struggled with gels, they will flake and or dry up if you do not use them in a timely fashion.

      Huggs Tammy


      Small precision brush

      • Creates thin lines and precise coverage
      • Applies color evenly for small targeted areas.
      • Use to apply concealer, smooth on lip color, or line eyes

      >>> Studio small angled brush.

      • Creates precise color application
      • Creates even, thin and straight lines every time
      • Use to apply lip color, eyebrow color, or to line eyes

    • March 19, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
    • What size brush do I need to apply shadow evenly under my eyes? I just want a fine line of shadow, not a thick/wide smudge. Are the new gels any easier to use?
      BTW, a man and woman came over to view my (departed) mom's house to rent, and she was 32, perfect skin, and perfect eye makeup. My brother and sister are negotiating and all i could think of was I wanted to ask her how she got her shadow on so perfectly...I'll never know. Well, who knows, maybe we'll be "friends" someday!

    • March 18, 2012 2:00 PM GMT
    • I do use false lashes Tammy! I don't feel dressed without them! The line on the false lash is a great tip too though I tend to soften it a little using either a smudging brush or even...wait for little finger! Lol x

    • March 18, 2012 7:32 AM GMT
    • Wow, glad to see things working out Debbie. Do you use false eye lashes? They make a huge difference at least for myself, and a good spot to use that liquid liner where the false lash meets the eye lash lid, to cancel the lash line, it makes putting false lashes on more forgiving. Huggs ...Tammy

      Oh BTW, do you use a smudge brush? It really does make things easier, and a nice blended finish look.

    • March 17, 2012 8:59 PM GMT
    • great tips girls! personally..i used to strive for that linear perfection, but now i actually deliberately smudge the lower line to give it a softer effect (kinda like the smokiness Tammy mentioned). like everything, it takes practise and you need to be subtle..but a little softening makes a huge difference for me! oh and i use liquid and pencil!

    • February 25, 2012 3:23 PM GMT
    • I have recently discovered liquid eyeliner. Rimmel is the one I am using. It comes with a very precise applicator, and it goes on very smoothly. I don't think I'll be going back to the pencils anytime soon.

    • September 14, 2012 12:57 AM BST
    • Many moisturisers are SPF 15 which would be ideal for your climate, but why not wear a hat ?

    • September 14, 2012 12:45 AM BST
    • sorted! lol xxx

    • September 14, 2012 12:06 AM BST
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    • September 13, 2012 11:58 PM BST
    • aah sorry , i misunderstood. well lets see if we can come up with a solution before next year. (being scottish the sun is never a problem here lol)

    • September 13, 2012 11:54 PM BST
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    • September 13, 2012 11:29 PM BST
    • gosh Nicola, sun on your skin is the worst thing for it! apart from the risk of melanomas it can prematurely age you..if you want to look bronze..go for fake tan! and keep bangin that sunblock on! x

    • August 6, 2012 4:34 PM BST
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    • August 10, 2012 2:46 PM BST
    • Thanks for the advice, sounds like I should go to a professional before trying a kit for myself.

    • August 10, 2012 2:46 PM BST
    • Thanks for the advance, sounds like I should go to a professional before getting a kit for myself.

    • February 4, 2012 4:58 AM GMT
    • You are so very correct Debbie.
      But I must say to my digress, the male eye lashes are not as remarkable as a GG lash. And as we get older, ...sigh...they really can get sparse and crazy, and a double row of lashes, at least my lashes do. Yes, I said, double row... again ..sigh...I asked my opthamologist about this, and's just another step to my advancing age.... :(

      But false lashes, do so remarkably well to correct this.....I shudder to say this again, correct my steps in the aging no, this is not my eye doctor's solution....LOL

      Now, my curiosity must ask...have any ladies here, that are on mones find that there lashes are so re-markedly feminine, or lacking the male pattern aging process, for lashes that is?

    • February 3, 2012 9:27 PM GMT
    • pops speaks the truth! genetically the male eyelash is straighter while the female is curved upwards... a good pair of eyelash curlers can make a great deal of difference without resorting to loads of mascara!

    • February 3, 2012 8:18 PM GMT
    • I cannot agree more Heather.
      Eyes are the first attention grabbing feature on the face. If things are done right, they can be very provocative.

      Lashes are also a point of interest that should be not be over looked. This is right from Poppy's sight an is a very good description concerning lashes. Quote from Style me Quirky " (snip) "Aesthetically the eyelashes have a very different function, they make
      the eye stand out, beautifying it. Dense and long eyelashes can make the difference."
      Could not be stated any better.....
      Huggs Tammy

    • February 3, 2012 1:17 AM GMT
    • Overdoing the eyes. Ending up as Alice Cooper!

    • January 31, 2012 8:39 PM GMT
    • very helpful Tammy!

    • January 31, 2012 4:39 AM GMT
    • Oooops, I did post this again, just noticed it, oh well.

      Well a long as I am at all this, I am going to post this again, I think I did this quite some time ago, but it's worth another look. Sorry,


      The two blunders I do not agree with in this link, please take your time with shadow, or you may end up with a very horrible looking eye makeup job.


      (1)  Go slow. You can rush through certain things when applying your makeup, like eye shadow or lip gloss, but mascara is not one of them.


      Use a lip lock wax, lip balm etc. and or exfoliate your lips with a very soft tooth brush. Actually I believe lip balm is sort of like a lip lock wax. Never tried it though. The Vaseline will just help lipstick bleed. I seen this for myself and others that have tried this, but if you wish to give it a go, maybe it will work for you. It seems younger girls can get away with this I must add.


      (2)Beauty Blunder: Your lipstick catches in the dry flakes of your chapped lips – and it looks awful!

      Quick fix: Apply Vaseline or lip balm on top of your lipstick and gently rub your lips together.


      Well here is the link and let us know your blunder fixes.




    • February 3, 2012 7:08 PM GMT
    • Thanks Pops, I am going to take a look at your site a little later in the evening.  I was just going to do a post just on exfoliating,which is so important for makeup to look it's best. But it sounds like you will have it covered on your site. I took a look at your site earlier in the week, and it looks very informative.


      Yes, I do know about Urban Decay's glitters, but this last pot of shadow seems to be kinder, softer, and seems to work very well in conjunction with the Sephora water proof pencil, at least it seemed to hold up well last Sat nite. I like to try some various combinations for problems that might be a good solution. But I will keep this new procedure posted.

      I definitely will take a look a your Ten Image pencil. I am really into makeup but have never heard of Sleek, so I will check this out. I am always up for something different, an older lady, I look at life as an adventure..Smile..... I do not believe that you MUST look your age....yuck.... if done right, it can be done with class...well OK.... the right surgeon helps.


      I find using L'Oreal lineur Intense liner with the brush is perfect for hiding the line of the false eye lash. And I am going to try the same brand with a felt tip for doing the corners, links below. Some may think that this is to much black, but if done right and blended with some lighter shades of shadow to soften the lines it is a very seductive night out on the town look. If anyone's interested, they can look in my profile picture folders and see that it is very subtle, not scary.

      Now there are some events that I do get involved with that I go a tad darker, but then the events are dark....hummm makes one wonder does it not...LOL. Well, enough babble Huggs...Tammy


      Felt tip link


      Brush link

    • February 3, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
    • Hey Tammy,

      Further to your original post about skin prep and foundation, I've now updated my blog with 2 seperate blogs on each;

      Transgender Makeover - Skincare, Shaving and Moisturising
      Transgender Makeover - Foundation
      there aren't seperate links so you may have to scroll down as I update my blog;

      Nothing keeps your eyeliner from running out your tear line except taking breaks and being careful putting it on in the first place so it gets a good hold. Rimmel pencils are good becuase they are so soft but the are rubbish becuase they last such a short amount of time. I use TEN IMAGE professional pencils for my eye and lip liner the rest of the time and on the outsides as they are long, harder and last so much longer! They are available in my makeup shop on my site if you want one.

      Urban Decay does some great makeup although (and this is a long time ago) the glitters were a bit too sort of, crunchy (!?) and the pallettes dried oout quickly.

      There is a brand here in the UK that do awesome pallettes called 'Sleek' not sure if you can get them in the US.

      Pops x

    • January 31, 2012 4:13 AM GMT
    • Hi Pops,

      Sounds like we have a lot in common with eye makeup. Gosh that is the single most important part of the make over, our eyes are the eyes of the world as someone once said. Eyes are one the of first thing people focus on.

      I to like a very intense eye look, I use a liquid liner along the lash line where my false lashes attach, hides them so well. The inside on the eye line, I use a Sephora liner that is water proof, then I go over that with either a eye shadow from smash box or urban decay, with a wet brush, to give a more intense look. This has been my best solution to keep the liner to stay there for the entire night, and yes being careful not to get things into the eye, but some always finds it's way there. My eye look all depends on what type of an event that I am attending.

      If you have any trick to keep liner to stay with out washing out of the tear line, it would be much appreciated.

      Another thing I do for my eyes is to wing them out from the corners to give a more seductive, feminine look, then I smoke out the rest of the eye. Then I do a VERY LIGHT dusting of light blue shadow over the smokey look to give a very nice highlight, add a very light shadow to the brow bone area and I must add ( I know you know this Pops ) but BLEND BLEND is a must.

      Most people will say that is to much work, yes it is but as you know when your done, you have a definite wow effect. Even though I am an older person, I do a very over the top look. And why not after all the cosmetic surgery I have had, I want to make the best of it...LOL...just gotta love it.

      I am chuckling now, your right, it does take a lot of writing to describe all this....

      Let me know if you have a good product that stay's put for the inner lash line....

      Huggs Tammy

    • January 30, 2012 10:16 AM GMT
    • Hey Tammy,
      Glad you found the tips of use :o)
      It certainly sounds like you are pretty experienced when it comes to makeup.
      Lip gloss IS a disaster lol! Much as I love it, I rearly wear it becuase your wig gets stuck to it and then drags it across your face - not very practical for an 'action tranny' like me!
      I use the white eyliner generally for sissy / cutsey looks, the rest of the time I use black on the inside of my tear line all the way across the bottom eye lid. oI also carefully pull up my top eye lid and do the edge of the lid just inside the eyelashes but only on the outside 3rd of the lid. Then I do eye liner the normal way across the top of the eye lid and finally along the bottom outside 3rd of the underneath of your eyelid. Using black in this way will give you super, super intense eyes! Gosh it takes a lot of typing to describe makeup techniques lol!
      Have fun and try not to draw all over your eyeballs like I did when I tried it the first few times! If you get it in your eyes, have some cotton buds (I think you Americans and Canadians call them 'cue tips') close by and pop one end in your mouth to wet it with some saliva and then very carefully pop it in your eye to wipe out the offending blob of pencil!
      Have fun!
      Pops x

    • January 30, 2012 5:29 AM GMT
    • Thanx Poppy,
      I am going to check out your site for sure.
      I like your lip tips..sort of has a rhyme to that, but anyhow, I use a lip lock wax that keeps my lips from bleeding with normal lipstick, but when ever I use lip gloss, wow what a disaster half way through the nite, but then I am 65, I can't ask for to much. Also I found that on the first application of lipstick, I use a brush, it works so much better for long coverage.
      I use a white liner on the inside of my eye but not quite as deep as you note, I will give it a try, and go into the tear line a little more...good tip girl.
      Huggs Tammy

    • January 29, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
    • Hey Tammy,

      Cool post, some good tips in there. I've been using the white eye-liner trick for years - rather than tiredness, it has the effect of opening up your eyes giving you a more wide-eyed innocent look - use it on the inside of your eye-lids the tear line, make sure you gently pull your eye-lid away from your face though or you'll get it in your eye!

      I use a non perfumed soap and water to clean my brushes, I guess its the same as a baby shampoo. I also use pure alchohol (you can get it from good professional makeup shops and I'm sure you can get it from chemists too) although you shouldn't use it too often with real hair brushes as it dries them out.

      With your lips, you need to use a pencil to line them but leave a couple of milimetres in the corners of your mouth. Lip liner is only really to draw the outline of your lips and specifically meant to stop your lipstick bleeding. If your lips aren't in great shape anymore, be it wrinkles or stubble or little 'subble bumps' in your skin, as much fun as it is to draw on bigger lips than you have, make sure you only draw the liner at the edge of your actual lips, not on your face, that should help prevent them from bleeding too. Apply your lipstick to your lips but not too far inside your mouth or you will get it on your teeth. Gently blot your lips by biting down with your lips onto a bit of tissue. If you are using gloss instead, or over the top of your lipstick, just don't go too crazy with it and it should stay put.

      It sounds like you've got your foundation sorted Heather but if you have a ruddy complexion you can use green underneath your foundation as green counteracts red. It might sound insane but its a professional technique. There are various colour foundations (orange ones as well to counteract blues and blacks of beard and stubble shadow) from the likes of Derma Blend and Kroyoan theatrical makeup. Apply it with a sponge or a foundation brush only to the areas of strong colour you are trying to counteract. Then apply loose powder with a puff and brush off. Frankly if you have a good matt green eye-shadow you can use that instead of the professional cremes. Apply it with a brush or a powder puff for your pink/ redest bits and then apply your foundation over the top.

      I hope this helps.

      By the way, I've coincidentally started my own makeup tips blog (on Friday!) but mine is specifically for transgender makeup, fell free to have a look and let me know your thoughts;

      Pops x

    • January 28, 2012 7:07 PM GMT
    • Wow Heather, I wish I could use that product ( lippy), I think your referring to lip gloss. it does not matter what I try, lip pencils, etc, I always end up bleeding out of the lip line...sigh...I guess the lips are not what they used to be...LOL

    • January 28, 2012 9:23 AM GMT
    • Lippy, mascara, blusher, a lot of looking in the mirror.... and more lippy!

    • January 28, 2012 4:04 AM GMT
    • Hi everyone, I thought it might be a good time to review some good makeup techniques, some that I use and some maybe you use and could share with us. I think I may of posted this link before, but what the heck, it's worth another go.


      Two of the secrets that are in this link I do not use, one is a cream blush, never could get it to do what I wanted, and a color corrector as they state in the article. I use a foundation that is a blend to match my skin under tones, something we all should know what that color is to get a good foundation finish. My skin is ruddy, so my foundations are matched to get the best out come. To cover blemishes and such, I use Bisque from Bare Minerals to cover those pesky little spots. And PLEASE EXFOLIATE with which ever product out there you may find works best. We need a clean and smooth canvass to start off with, so the dead skin cells do not interfere with the out come of the foundation. I use PROX from Olay, which is applied with there rotary applicator. I do use something else with this and it works very will for me, but for now I will keep it a the reason is many will think it bazaar an to simple, but it works for me and also reduces brown skin damage from the sun, we all have it in our this a baited statement?


      Well check out the link.....Tammy


    • January 25, 2012 2:30 PM GMT
    • Anna-Marie Trindall said:

      Here's an interesting tip that i didny think would work but it did. When shaving your legs, instead of using talc on them once dry try rubbing in some moisturiser. I tried this and it certainly made my legs feel a lot might do the same for you.



      Anna Trindall xx Smile


      Actually i search leg crak problem:) my leg feet very dry and every cold season craked, so need crake solution:( thanks

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    • December 31, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    • Covering the beard is a problem for all of us. In my studio, I use two basic methods on my clients. Both are based upon the use of MAC Studio Tech Creme Foundation. It is a water based, full coverage foundation. Unlike products such as Dermablend, which I have used in the past, it is a "buildable" coverage. You can use a little or a lot, depending upon your needs. I use this foundation product on everyone from female high school seniors going to the prom, or sitting for their senior photos, to drag queens. It finishes, and photographs beautifully.
      The methods are...
      1. If you have a light to medium colored, beard use MAC Studio Finish Concealer over your beard area first using a foundation brush to apply. Stipple the product on using the ends of the brush hairs to get the product into the hair follicles for best coverage. Then apply MAC Studio Tech Creme Foundation over the concealer, and to the rest of your face using a makeup wedge. Set with MAC Select Sheer Loose Powder in a shade the same, or slightly lighter than your foundation applying with a large powder brush.
      2. If your beard is dark, use "Mehron Tatto Cover" over your beard area. Select a shade approximating, or slightly lighter than your foundation color. Apply with a makeup wedge.
      Next apply MAC Studio Tech Creme Foundation with a makeup sponge over the beard area. Set everything in place with MAC Select Sheer Loose Powder in a shade equal to or slightly lighter than your foundation.

      As with all things makeup, remember my 3 favorite words.. BLEND! BLEND!! BLEND!!!

      Stay beautiful girls,

      Amanda Richards
      True Colors Makeup Artistry

    • December 31, 2011 3:14 PM GMT
    • Hi Girls. Great tips from all of you. On my clients, and myself I use eyeshadows with a stiff, angled eyeliner brush. Brow powders are a good option, but they are, in fact, eyeshadows repackaged. If you have eyeshadows in the general shade of your eyebrows you can use them, even combine different colors to get the perfect look. I find pencils are too waxy, and artificial looking. If you have brows that are sparse, just use the powder/eyeshadow to fill in, and and define them where needed. If your brows are a bit bushier than you would like, and you are unable to thin them, try using a clear mascara (lots of companies make them) to define and shape them. Sweep the mascara on your brow using upward, and outward strokes. This will serve to get the brow under control, and bring it in to a more desirable shape. You can also use tinted brow gels (MAC Brow Set is a favorite of mine) to define them. These are basically tinted mascaras, and come in a variety of colors. If you have regular mascara that matches your brow shade, go ahead and use that.

    • December 31, 2011 3:13 PM GMT
    • Use wipes Tara. Not soap and water!

    • December 31, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
    • Please don't use just soap and water girls. As Debbie Davies said, it is so dehydrating and harsh on your skin. In my studio, and on myself, I use a product called "Albolene". It's an old school cleanser & moisturizer. It deeply cleans your pores, and is safe, and non irritating for your eyes. It's wonderful. My wife took the tip from me, and uses it every day as well.
      Just spread it on, work it in, and remove the excess with a tissue.
      Amanda Richards

    • December 11, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    • I'd recommend the facial wipes that Carol mentioned, the ones from Boots, they're really good, x

    • December 11, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
    • i use simple eye makeup remover and a cotton pad, work in a couple of swipes oh and baby wipes work well too! x

    • December 11, 2011 6:07 PM GMT
    • As the girls have said, there are many types of general make up removers available, from cream to pre moistened pads..i would never recommend removing make up with just soap and water simply because it severely dehydrates your skin and ain't good for it! Always moisturise after removing make up too!