What can I do to lose body hair & weight?

    • 8 posts
    February 28, 2007 9:54 PM GMT
    Hi everyone,

    I've got a question that I hope one of our more knowledgable sisters might help shed some light on.

    I've been crossing dressing since I was about 6 years and I'm now 42 and still cross dress (with my S/O's knowledge, if not support/acceptance) and my question relates to both 'body hair' and weight.

    Whilst I do wax and shave I was wondering if there is anything that can help remove or at the very least sow down the growth of body hair?

    I also try to diet to to maintain an acceptable girly figure but it's proving an uphill struggle being 6ft and 175lbs

    I'm not yet ready for anything that might have a too feminising affect on my body, but I'm beginning to realise that eventually that's the path life has chosen for me, as my cravings and desires for the freedom being female gives me grows daily.

    Some small breast development would be nice, but then what girl would turn that down?

    Any advice greatly appreciate.


    • 8 posts
    March 1, 2007 8:44 AM GMT
    Thanks girls,

    I'll do some more research before I do anything.

    It does sound as a if sensible hormone regime is probably going to be the way forward but that will require some frank discussions with my S/O and some life changing decisons on my part.

    It's fair to say I'm excited at the prospect but worried about the consequences.

    I do wish I was a braver person and had made some decisions earlier in my life, never mind one step at a time...

    Thanks again for your advice and good luck and happiness in your lives.

    hugs & kisses
    • 16 posts
    March 1, 2007 5:46 PM GMT
    Hi Gemma
    Have you tried using an epilator for hair removal instead of shaving?
    It hurts like hell the first time but subsequent sessions do get easier, much easier. I've found I stay smooth for longer plus having used one for the last 3-4 months I'm finding that most hairs are growing back finer, some much finer than they were originally and as such aren't such a problem. I use it on my arms, legs chest etc. I certainly wouldnt want to use a razor again but you do need to get through that torturous first session.
    Losing weight? I'm 6ft and 79 kg which is very close to your size i think, dress size 16-18, skirts 14?. I do a lot of running, 10-15 miles a week and find that helps me stay reasonably trim, that and eating sensibly. However having said that and doing that level of exercise regularly I havent managed to lose any weight for months and months........ sorry not much help, huh?
    • 8 posts
    March 2, 2007 10:29 AM GMT
    Hi Jayne,

    Your estimate of sizing is spookily accurate, although I'm dying to lose some of my stomach and get down to a 12 skirt, 14/16 top. I just hate my current figure and sometimes hide my girl self away for weeks on end (which is tearing my up mentally) because I can't look like the woman that deep down I feel I am.

    I'll have to try an epilator. Any suggested models that you've found work best?

    What do you do about the dreaded hair on the back, or are you lucky enough that you don't have this problem?

    It's a shame that there isn't a pill to take that would control hair growth, but if there ws I'm sure someone would surpress it anyway as male & female grooming products are a far too lucrative business for drug companies.

    Anyway, thanks for the tips.

    XX
    • 16 posts
    March 4, 2007 11:10 PM GMT
    Hi Gemma
    My epilator is a 'Braun Silk Epil', seems to work quite well. I'm pleased with it.....
    I guess my back is slightly hairy and i do struggle on my own trying to reach all of it. I wish I were more flexible, maybe I should take up yoga or something, lol. I've thought of visiting a beauty parlour to get it waxed but haven't summoned up the courage yet. Maybe one day.....
    One other thing to bear in mind though, using an epilator takes a lot more time than a razor so its worth bearing this in mind.
    To be honest I read your height and weight from your profile, we're almost identically sized so just assumed your dress size etc would be the same as mine.... Not really spooky just coincidence.
    Jayne X
    • 8 posts
    February 21, 2008 12:54 AM GMT
    Hi Rae,

    God I'm pleased to get my laptop back from repair so I can check back into TW and get up to date with all the news etc..

    Thanks for your post. I know what you mean, I often find it's past 7pm before I get a chance to eat which isn't a very good way to keep my weight down.

    It looks like smaller portions are the future!!

    On Lucy's recommendation I'm trying to source some Vaniqa so Ill come back and post on my progress at preventing the hair growth some time in the future.

    Lots of love

    Gem
    xx
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    • 1652 posts
    March 1, 2007 1:03 AM GMT
    There’s little you can do really to reduce body hair permanently, without going on an intensive course of hormones. Even that will have varying results on body hair, and it’s not something you can do selectively – it’s all or nothing; before you notice a change in your body hair you will be growing breasts and your virility will be affected.
    IPL might be worth a try, though it’s expensive. Go for 3rd generation systems, “Light Sheer” I think is one of them. It’s worth researching before you spend your money. Electrolysis is not practical on large areas of body hair, and no fun on the face either, but it’s proven to be effective.
    There is a cream called Vaniqa which in most cases will slow down hair growth. It’s only for use on the face, and unfortunately is currently only available on prescription. It’s designed for hirsute women so you’d probably have to be undergoing specialist gender treatment before your GP would prescribe it. I’m going to ask for it next time I see my GP, as the gender clinic have now advised him that I should be allowed to try it. As yet it’s only been officially tested on women, though I’ve heard a few promising reports from TS women.
    As for weight, well, eat sensibly and exercise, or get liposuction, somewhat more drastic. Some surgeons will re-inject the fat elsewhere to give a more womanly figure, I find that very tempting I must say, though I’m not sure if I’m fat enough yet!
    Where’s the pies…?
    xx
    • 2573 posts
    March 2, 2007 5:09 PM GMT
    I ran across this hair inhibition product (and an apparent imitator). I wonder if anyone has tried it and, if so, what the results were for you.

    http://www.e-hairremoval.com/?AID=1186844&PID=391022

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    • 1652 posts
    March 5, 2007 1:03 PM GMT
    Re. Wendy's last post:
    Ultra Hair Away and other such products are fakes and will have no real effect on your body or facial hair. I’ve tried “Kalo”, the same sort of thing, and a few others with less well-known brand names. Waste of time, effort and money. The before and after shots are fakes. Before and after shots usually are.
    There’s only one cream available that I know of that will, in most cases slow/reduce facial hair: it’s called Vaniqa, but in the UK it’s only available on prescription, which should tell you something about its efficacy. So far it has only been officially tested on natal females, but I have heard some good reports from TS women who swear by it. My gender clinic approves it’s use and have advised my GP to let me try it, which I will be doing soon.
    It takes several months to see any results, and once its use is discontinued hair will grow back again, but it may be a viable alternative to costly, painful, time-consuming and potentially skin-damaging electrolysis or laser. I’ve tried IPL and laser, it wasn’t effective on me, though I’ve had a very slight reduction in certain areas. My final laser treatment left me burnt. Not good.
    Products out of a bottle that promise permanent hair removal in just 8 weeks are I’m afraid, just too good to be true.
    xx
    • 2573 posts
    March 6, 2007 12:09 AM GMT
    thank you, Lucy.

    An inhibitor might be worth it to spread out necessary waxing/shaving. I'll look into Vaniqua.
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    • 1652 posts
    March 6, 2007 12:40 AM GMT
    Trust me about those products, they do not inhibit hair growth at all. Vaniqa in some cases can virtually completely remove the need for shaving after many months use, but it is only recommended for use on the face. I suspect it’s quite expensive without prescription.
    As for the rest of the body, waxing is probably your best bet. I also use a Braun Silk Epi on my legs, or an Immac type cream if I’ve left them for ages and the hairs are too long to suffer the pain of the epi. If you use the epi regularly, it doesn’t really hurt much at all.
    I have heard of people having good results with IPL on body hair, I think it depends on your hair type as well as the type of machine used and perhaps also the experience of the operator.
    xx
    • 734 posts
    February 4, 2008 11:53 PM GMT
    Hey Gemma!

    In my book, if you're 6' tall then your weight is about right, 12.5st, maybe go down to 12st but less and you'll risk looking too thin and ill. I'm a shade under 6' and come in at 11.5st - definately the lightest I can afford to be without looking like a skeleton!

    I do lose weight very easily - but I can also put it on very easily too!

    My main dificulty is not just maintaining my weight but actually getting around to eating enough - I find it very easy to forget to eat and before I know it its 6pm and I'm wondering why I feel peckish...

    Clotheswise, the bottom half is a UK size 10 but the top is size 16 [14's a real push] due to that extra large male ribcage I was 'blessed' with

    Much love

    Rae xx
    • 734 posts
    February 23, 2008 12:18 AM GMT
    Hi Gem!

    Yep, small portions is a good move and easy to get used to....

    Last year I lost about 3 stone and feel a lot better for it and way more confident with my body. And I did it by taking no notice of fad diets - or any diet for that matter.

    I just took notice of the two facts I knew about dieting. The first is that the only way to lose weight is to burn up more calories than you take in. And the second thing being most people tend to give up after a few weeks mainly because they don't see the results fast enough and get despondent.

    So I joined a local gym for a few months. However, I wanted weight loss not muscle gain so I stuck to the jogging machine, the cross-trainer and [rarely] the rowing machine. I ignored everything else. I did a forty minute session at least three times a week. Started off gently and built up at my own pace.

    At the same time I started to take better note of my meal sizes, cut out the fatty takeaways and dropped a stone quite quickly. That gave me the incentive to continue.

    And those of you who don't think you're fit enough to get to a gym in the first place I'll also mention that I'm classed as a chronic asthmatic and, at the time, could'nt walk up a street without having to stop for breath! [I started with the running machines at little over walking pace to begin with and always wore a chest strap that'd set of an alarm if my pulse rate suddenly shot up!]

    All I'm trying to say is if I can do it no-one has an excuse. And I did it gently, at my own pace and it was enjoyable. It was fun losing three stone.

    Much love

    Rae xx