China cracks up

    • 171 posts
    August 19, 2008 10:47 AM BST
    Many questions remain about China's human rights record and it will be interesting to watch how the country will develop post Olympics. But, perhaps we need to give them a chance, because this morning I watched in admiration as over 75 men transitioned live on TV. More to the point, they did it twice in less than an hour.

    Yes, I smiled over my cornflakes when I learnt that the change from swimming to cycling, and cycling to running is called the 'transition' when you compete in a Triathlon. Must be the one-piece body suit...

    On a similar note, my wife has suggested that male swimmers physiques can often look quite feminine. They certainly do achieve an hourglass figure as a result of a particularly demanding exercise routine, but I'm not certain that a 6'7" frame can be supported upon delicate Manihlo heels.

    Rachel
    • 1083 posts
    August 20, 2008 8:44 PM BST
    **feigned horror**

    Why, Mere...are you insinuating that the US has an equally crappy human rights record...?

    **sweet, southern belle tone of voice**

    Of course, sugah, I would nevah say such things...I'm a good little girl, so shy and withdrawn....

    **sarcastic, catty tone of voice**

    I mean, it's just that we screw over our own citizenry as well as the rest of the world that just happens to disagree with us? Just because us TS types can't get basic civil protections...Say it ain't so!

    I wouldn't be so concerned if my government weren't out to get me... (And hey, you nameless, soulless bureaucrat reading this in some Homeland Security office outside Quantico--I have a brain, and should be considered armed and dangerous! )

    Luv 'n hugs,

    Mina Sakura
    • 2463 posts
    August 19, 2008 1:44 PM BST
    Just on a quick side note, before of the so-called "western" countries start pointing fingers at China for human rights, they need to examine their own first.
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    • 2127 posts
    August 19, 2008 11:12 PM BST
    Going off at a slight tangent, but still kind of on the same subject, I thought you might be interested to see the Wikipedia entry for "Transgender in China"...

    A wide variety of terms are used in relation to transgenderism in Chinese languages. In Mandarin, the term kuaxing (¿çÐÔ, pinyin k¨´ax¨¬ng), literally "to go beyond sex", has recently come into use as a literal translation of the English term "transgender", but kuaxing is not in popular use outside of academia.

    Fanchuan (·´´®, f¨£nch¨´an) is the historical term for cross-dressed performing on stage, as in Beijing opera where males play women's parts, or in Taiwanese opera where females play men's parts. Fanchuan has recently come to mean dressing in drag as well, with many of the associations of that English word.

    A common term for "ladyboys" or other transsexual people who perform on stage is renyao (ÈËÑý, py r¨¦ny¨¡o). This term is most specifically applied to Thai katoey, and almost never to Chinese transgender people. The term can be broken down as "human monster"; and while some would argue that yao here means "enchanting", the word has both connotations. In combination with its application primarily to non-Chinese, and especially southeast Asian, transgender people, it is a very offensive term. Chinese transgender people themselves almost universally avoid the term, favoring less insulting descriptions.

    In the late 1990s, the performing group Red Top Arts (¼t픡ÈË, py H¨¯ngd¨«ng Y¨¬r¨¦n) came to fame in Taipei, Taiwan as the island's first professional drag troupe. Since this time, "Red Top" and various homophones (¼t¶¦£¬ºê¶¦, etc.) have come to be common combining-forms that indicates drag, crossdressing, etc.

    The standard Chinese term for transsexual people is ׃ÐÔÕß, (py b¨¬anx¨¬ngzhe), literally "one who changes sex". B¨¬anx¨¬ng ׃ÐÔ is therefore the most common way to say "change one's sex", though not necessarily through sexual reassignment surgery -- bianxing may also include hormonal changes and lifestyle changes.

    Terms for crossdressing are many and varied. ®Ñbñ± (py y¨¬zh¨±angp¨«), literally "obsession with the opposite [sex's] attire", is commonly used. °çÑb (py b¨¤nzh¨±ang), literally "to put on attire", is commonly used to mean crossdressing. Related to this is an auxiliary term for drag queens: °çÑb»Êºó (py b¨¤nzh¨±ang h¨²angh¨°u), or "crossdressing queen". There are several terms competing as translations of the English drag king, but none has reached currency yet.

    For a short period in the late 1990s, "third sex hostess" (µÚÈýÐÔ¹«êP, py d¨¬s¨¡nx¨¬ng g¨­ngg¨±an) bars were popular in Taiwan. These bars were closely modeled on Japanese new half hostess bars, though perhaps less stately than their Japanese counterparts. Through this trend, "the third sex" has come to be used more frequently for a general marker of transgenderism.

    Two common terms for intersex people exist: ÖÐÐÔÈË (py zh¨­ngx¨¬ngr¨¦n), literally "middle sex person" (and perhaps indicating androgyny rather than medical intersexuality), and êŽê–ÈË (py y¨©ny¨¢ngr¨¦n) , or "Yin-Yang person".

    History of transgenderism in China
    Mentioned above, many types of traditional Chinese theater included cross-dressed actors. Beijing opera and Taiwanese opera are perhaps the most famous examples.

    In 2000, what appears to be the first formal transgender support group, Taiwan TG Butterfly Garden, was established in Taiwan. Informal groups exist elsewhere and on the Net; see the links section, below.

    Relative occurrence of transwomen and transmen
    As transgender studies began in Taiwan and statistics began to be published, many people noted that the island had a far larger occurrence of transmen (female-to-male) than of transwomen (male-to-female). This put Taiwan in interesting contrast to the West, where the opposite is usually believed to be true. Fang Ronghuang, one of Taiwan's most famous sexual reassignment surgeons, published statistics stating that the prevalence of female-to-male transsexualism is at least five times greater than male-to-female.

    However, as with the Western case, many academics now believe that this is an error in reporting rather than a true difference in reality. Many believe that the actual ratio is about 1:1.

    Hope that's interesting.

    Hugs,

    Katie x