Hi girls, I'm a little disappointed that we women over the age of 50 aren't representing ourselves more. Some of us spend 50 years or more going though the "I guess I'll always have to live as a man" way of life and never think this will change. For the first time in my life, I have a chance to change to the real me., 9 months ago I realized that for the 1st time in my life I can be me. I skipped the therapist phase, what a waste of time, I know who I am and what I want.,and went to a good friend who is a Endo''. We talked for several days and he wasn't surprised how I felt, which freeked me out because I thought everyone was fooled by my facade. He over saw my bloods and health issues and agreed to monitor me.He agreed that I was really in the wrong place, gender wise. With his help I started a regimen of estrofem, and spiro, . I'm 6 months in and I'm so in the right place!! The point of this thread is to get other advanced aged women to come forth and lets talk about us and how things are going and any concerns we have. Maybe we can ease some tension about starting HRT this late in life. I know even with a Doc.. involved I worry about being this age when I started. I just want to live out the rest of my life as a women. I know your out there and have question like, is it to late to become a women and what are the health risks. I'm not going to act as a medical professional but I will pass on my experiences and what my Doc. tells me. Please let me hear from you. Thanks, Lauralea

Hi Lauralea

It doesn't seem as if you are going to get many replies. I am a bit older than you but still on HRT and enjoying life and transitioning.
Despite all the warnngs etc I am a DIY person, but have an annual check up.

Lauralea, i to am thinking about the surgery, and how it will come out, the hole thing is i want to be sure i can still climacks, i have read alot about it but cant find the odds on that, but good luck
Love Pam

Hello Lauralea, I am in my 50's and have been so deep in the closet for 30 + years! I have lost a 23 year marriage and I am in another one at present. I know I am a woman in my heart and soul and I of course dressing like a woman and I enjoy dressing in very nice clothing where I don't look "Outstanding" or Gawdy. I do like my heels and hosiery however, I have been trying to grow my breasts and I have been using "Zoft" chewing gum which supposedly yields great reviews! I am not satisfied by the shape they are taking on. They are not a feminine shape but rather a outward torpedo shape! That may seem humorous but it is far from funny to me! My nipples and areola are not changing at all! The issue I am really concerned over is, I am still basically in the closet! I wear a compression vest to work and among family and friends. I fear I look far too masculine in body and face! It often makes me cry when I am around no one! I so desperately want to live my life as a woman! I want to dress and go out in the world and rejoice who I know I really am! I also know I will lose my job, my friends and my family will reject me! I will not only lose them but my current wife as well! She is fine with me dressing up at home but as far as anything beyond that, it is the end! I am often sad and depressed. I did the therapist thing for two and a half years! I was even told by one that I'd make a very unattractive woman! I cried all day! I almost purchased Estrofem TTS 100, Aldactone (Spirolactone) and Progesterone from an overseas Pharmacy. I didn't because I had no one to monitor my progress and blood so I did not clot or have thrombosis etc. I'm at a loss and feel as you said, "I'll never become the woman I know I am" "I'll be male forever!" I can sure use some sound advise and a Endocrinologist friend too!

Laura lee, you might want to contact Trans rights Virginia , a transgroup here in Virginia that has us over 50 gals in it . Yes were a political action group but we are also there to help anyone such as your self . If necessary P-M me and I'll give you my personal e-,ail . I'm 58 and I work with what i have ! I spent a lifetime trying to destroy myself , now it's time to rectify that ! Ellen S.

Rose, you make a lot of valid points but you are assuming everyone takes the same meds at the same dosage. First there are the doctors that prescribe low dose estrogen in the range of 2mg oral per day. There will likely be development but it will be slow coming and have a minor effect on testosterone production. Next is there are different types of anti-androgens. Spiro is probably the most common and at a sufficent dose will stop T production and cause the testes to shrink in size. However, meds like Casodex don't stop T production but instead block T receptors. Therefore you can have a variety of influences on libido and don't forget that products such as Viagra are quite effective.

As for me, on a scale of 1 to 10, my libido is -10, lol.

Hugs,
Marsha

That is really easy to answer Rose. Some gals have partners that they would like to continue enjoying sex with. Is something wrong with that? Personally I don't see anything wrong with a TS gal having interest in a positve sexual relationship and why shouldn't they use what is available? Atleast in the U.S. I don't remember reading where transitioning TS gals were banned from ever having sex again.

I know some gals feel the world is ending as long as that thing is hanging between their legs and don't understand how any TS gal could live with it. Personally I think that is ludicrous because although I want it gone also, I can handle living with it until my surgery day comes. Besides that, the fact is the majority of TS never have surgery because of money or that it really isn't that big of deal.

Hugs,
Marsha

Hi there, Well I am not 50 yet but getting closer . I have done Laser and starting electro to get the hairs the laser missed, you now the ones that are not black any more LOL

Also considering hormones and very interested in teh path rather than oral for clotting reasons.

However one step at a time and hope to live the rest of my life a as female as well

Hugs to you and all

Brenda

I would like to see this thread continued as I myself am 49 and "getting on".
Thanks.


Stephenie

I turn 50 this month. I honestly have no idea what the next few years hold for me. My wife has told me, and I agree, that I need to "get comfortable in my own skin," which could mean a lot of things. LOL.

"Lauralea, i to am thinking about the surgery, and how it will come out, the hole thing is i want to be sure i can still climacks, i have read alot about it but cant find the odds on that, but good luck
Love Pam"

I was so disappointed in the 80's after going to the Univ of Oregon Medical library doing research on vaginoplasty,...perhaps being a Virgo I wanted something more perfect (or nothing at all) Wow! Things have sure changed since Christine Jorgensens day. The below link even has an interesting discussion on post-op sexuality and orgasms.

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html

The odds today of achieving post-op orgasm appears to be greater than 8 in 10. Personally, since I entered Tanner stage 2 touching my nipples sends waves of ecstatic pleasure through me, without even getting an erection. The above link suggests that post-op orgasms could be many, many times better than anything realized as a male.

Janelle

Hi Lauralea,

I'm somewhat in same boat, perhaps in a little deeper water.
I'm 62 years old. Over the years I had played around with Crossdressing, and from time to time entertained fantasies of being a woman.
But the play, was just play, and the fantasies just that. Nothing to take seriously, or at least that's what I told myself when ever I pondered it, which wasn't often
But as I progressed through my 50s the fantasies, instead of fading started getting stronger and more often, and I began to take them seriously. For the first time I began to think about transitioning as a real possibility. The idea grew more and more attractive, and the possibility at some point morphed into a probability.
Finally, about 2 years ago I began a hormone regimen, like you without therapy, but unlike you without any medical supervision whatsoever.
I started with Estrofem and Sipro. After about 2 months my nipples were sore to the touch, but at this point I got a case of cold feet. I don't think I had any doubts about my decision. I was just scared, as the probability now seemed like a reality.
I discontinued the hormones, and resigned myself to Crossdressing. I continued in this vein for about 1 1/2 years with the pleasure
of Crossdressing diminishing, and the desire for hormones increasing, an an inverse correlation as it were. Finally, after not much internal debate, about a month ago I resumed hormones, making a firm commitment to myself to see it through this time. Again without therapy or medical supervision. The time off hormones, did me a world of good, or so I believe, as it helped me understand that whatever desires are driving me can't be satisfied with CD alone. I need something fuller. I have this image of myself in my late 60s decked out in an plaid pajamas, a ratty old robe, sipping wine, and reading a good mystery, perhaps an old Miss Marple that I hadn't read in years.
It's an image that, to me, is very very pleasing.

Hi Gail

You are still young compared with me . I am following a similar programme to you but wish you every success. You may get a few
posts advising to get medical supervision. However Lena (on Crone) has different thoughts.

Lauralea,
Grab the Brass Ring!! I am so happy that you have found "the right place".
For the Girls over 50, It is better to experience "even a few" beautiful sunsets ....than to never see a single one.
I started hormones when I was 54 an haven't looked back!
Too many Girls start taking that junk "snakeoil" from the "health food outlets" and end up harming themselves..or at the very least, wasting valuable time.

Doanna wrote, "Too many Girls start taking that junk "snakeoil" from the "health food outlets" and end up harming themselves..or at the very least, wasting valuable time. "

Keep in mind,...I doubt Doanna has any experience with "health foods," a typical trait of those who believe Allopathic Medicine. Personally, I have such an adversion to Allopathic Gatekeeps, and how they step between people and their direct experience. Sure, allopathy has a role in society,...but in my opinion, its high pedestal position is indicative of the blind faith of the media-ted.

I use the Evanesce ES and Feminol herb formula's,...my feminization results is consistant and sometimes better than pharmacuetical averages,...for example, I had significant breast spurt (Tanner 2) in week 3, versus the month 3 average of the allopathic approach.

For me, I suffered through many years of unhappiness because 1) I detest Allopathic Gatekeepers, and 2) the side effects of pharmacuetical hormones is Russian Roulette in that statistics suggest at least 1 out of 6 experience harsh consequences.

I've heard of few people having an allergic reaction to Evanesce. The ingredients have a few thousand years of experience,...for example, chaste tree was used by Romans before the invention of Christianity. I'm sure my liver would be allergic to pharmacuetical hormones,...I'd probably have better luck just drinking horse urine.

Janelle

Hi Janelle, I have no issues with you taking or encouraging herbal use but you need to approach it with caution. You chose to point out that using pharmaceutical hormones have a 1 in 6 experience with harsh consequences. I don't know where you got that but for the sake of my point I can accept that and that is precisely why I always recommend medical supervision while on hormones. Now for your herbal products you chose not to show any statistics and I can tell you that you can't because they just are not available. There is no documentation that the various herbals "ONLY" do what some take them for, there is no documentation for proper dosage based on individual characteristics of the individual, and there is no central reporting or record keeping of those who have had bad experiences with these products. You can only report your experiences and the fact is you are the only one just like you. You also made generalized statements like "I'm sure my liver would be allergic to pharmacuetical hormones,...I'd probably have better luck just drinking horse urine." How do you know? You have said here and in other threads that you don't believe in allopathic medical ways. Also your remark to horse urine is obviously directed at premarin products which actually happen to be the least recommended for HRT in MTFs. I don't believe you are up to date on the successful medical treatment of transsexuals.

I also challenge the fact that those seriously considering transitioning would resort to using such products. More likely the gals who just think boobs would be a neat idea. Chances are they will still need breast forms to fill out their bras. Doanna is right, it is snake oil. Not just the herbal product, but premise that these products will improve someone's life that are taking them to transition.

I challenge you to provide scientific documentation to substantiate these products do exactly what you say.

Hugs,
Marsha

Hi Joanne,

Thanks for the encouraging word it's much appreciated.
I have gotten plenty of advice to seek medical treatment, but at my age I don't see the need.
Again, thanks for the kind word.

gailS

Regarding hormone production for "over 50's"
It is well documented that the Testosterone production generally lessens after 30 or so yrs' of age. For guys, it is a bit of a "secret thing" ...never to be talked about.
It is also true that guys produce small amounts of estrogen.
When the testosterone production reduces, the effects of the estrogen can be more "obvious" and the male drive can be reduced.
We have all heard of "guy boobs" LOL
My point is, the older an a person is when they "make their decision"- the more likely it is that the person will have a low testosterone level to begin with. Often, the effects of low testosterone are attributed to what ever "herbals" the person is taking at the time. if they are taking something that is supposed to "feminize" them...they figure it must be working.
Finally, and unfortunately, many people taking these "herbal remedies" are not under proper medical supervision - which means that they are not getting properly tested either. They may feel more "feminine"... but there is always the "placebo effect" to consider.

Since many people here have "suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune" by being in the wrong body...it would make sense to do it right while you still have your health.
See your Doctor, see a "shrink", see an Endo, and ...see the Girl that you really are.
Hugs to you all!

Yes, my mothers generation believes in allopathic medicine,...do whatever the gatekeeper says. Hey, that's fine for folks who wish to have no imput in their health. I personally resent the allopathic system, and I'm simply posting that for those who want choice,...who want to take a active, informed approach with their health, there are alternative options.

I do consider myself educated enough to know the difference between "man boobs" and the Tanner Scale.
http://www.tgguide.com/Library/breast-development.htm

To say that there is no information on the Phoenix Projects feminizing herbs is ludicrious. These herbs have been used for thousands of years. Of course, why would allopathic medicine endorse herbal use? There's no profit in it for them. In my opinion, they have one product which herbally blocks T much better and with less complications than the pharmacueticals,...which would greatly help in the ridiculous US prison system (another subject).

As for me,...I have 100% health coverage,...get regular exams, blood work, etc. I make informed decisions about my health,...and not soley what allopath spews. I "use" allopathy,...I don't let them "use" me.

At this time, I have feminization results that exceed the average results of pharmacuetical hormones. If this is simply a placebo (as Doanna suggests) that is perfectly OK with me. It would mean my mind is producing more estrogen than T. One week before beginning Evanesce ES and Feminol my T was 463 and a 194E. Four weeks later, my bust increased by 1 1/2", while the areola increased by 1/4". After 6 weeks, my hemi-circumference is 14.5 cm, and there is a 3" difference between bust and band.

The only way I'd consider pharmacuetical hormones if after an orchidectomy,...when I could use a reduced dose. However, the gatekeepers just don't anyone have an orchidectomy. For me, I'd love to have a SRS in the States,...but I'll probably have to opt for overseas. Basically, I'm my own person,...I live the way I want,...not how the gatekeepers want me to be.

I don't know how to be dishonest to get what I want. For me, being under the supervision of an allopath is dishonest. However, I wish all my kindred sisters the best,...no matter what process they use.

Janelle

OK Janelle, I know you are a wiz at religious studies, but lets look at this logically.

1. First you seem paranoid of what you call gatekeepers. In the U.S. it really isn't an issue now is it, you have free well to go to whatever psych you want until you get the approval for what you are after. Or is it you are afraid they are going to tell you what you don't want to hear?

2. Knock the nonsense off about there is no profit in it for pharmaceutical companies. Anything they package and put on a shelf they are going to make a profit.

3. The website suggests up to 2 bottles of Evanesce ES and 2 bottles of Feminol per month at a cost of $40usd for the Evanesce and $36usd for the Feminol. My calculator says that equals $76usd. My estradiol from Walmart costs me $6usd. So who is the fool paying $70usd more per month because they are worried about gatekeepers? And do you still want to say pharmaceuticals can't make money on it. How much do you think the Phoenix Project people are making off of their stuff? I'll bet a hell of a lot more than the pharmaceutical companies are making off my $6usd prescription. DUH!

4. And why would anyone even consider an orchiectomy now days? You are seriously using old information for what you want to call your transition, especially if you seriously have any thoughts of going overseas for SRS. The scrotal skin graft technique is now the most widely used method for SRS. Orchiectomies can prevent having enough tissue available for surgery, causing less suitable graph material to come from other parts of the body such as the abdomen. Some surgeons won't work with someone who has had an orchi.

5. Oh and by the way. You talked about going overseas should you ever get SRS. Thailand now requires a SRS Recommendation Letter from one of those evil gatekeepers if you want surgery.

Gatekeepers, lol.

Hugs,
Marsha

I joined this forum for information, and I'm getting lots of it. I use this info to increase my awareness of my process. I'm glad to hear that your (Marsha) gatekeepers are just right for you. I've been labeled an autogynephiliac, because I didn't know I wasn't to say that I have a propensity to imagine myself as female, and thus the gatekeepers believe I should be cured through "Reparative Therapy".

Back in '82 some allopathic gatekeepers said a swollen lymph node was cancerous,...I went ahead and did the biopsy,...and then another surgery,...and then a simple lymphangiogram that ended up an operation for something else,...all to cover up one allopaths idiocy. A naturalpath reviewed the info and supplied me with sufficient evidence that all I had was a swollen gland, and did not need to go through 7 months of radiation as recommended by the allopaths. The truth of American allopathy is this,...if one MD says one thing, it is very seldom that another will contradict or challenge it. Obviously you have never had such experiences, and thus come off as "your way or the highway" regarding others transition.

Gender groups have since told me about the "game",...frankly I don't want to play,...my integrety is more important,...besides, I KNOW that my liver would not like the pharmacuetical hormones needed while the T machine is active.

For you, you keep hinting at how ignorance is bliss. For example, you mentioned it with your theology,...in that you don't need to read the Bible, for you already know everything. I can only imagine that you have never read the contraindications of hormone usage.

Yes, I spend $80 per month on herbs that do the samething as your $6 pharmacueticals,...for me it's worth it. For you its not,...but I'm not downing your choice,...I can only imagine that you do the best for you as you allow. I cannot purchase the herbs in Evanesce for less than $200 separately,...so I doubt the transgender avocate woman who had her SRS 30 years is really getting rich having Cevan International produce her formula,...to me, for my condition, she is an Angel .

As for orchidectomies,...although I didn't say I was getting one,...I was under the understanding that there was two types,...one that saves material for a labia, and one that does not. I mentioned orchidectomy in regards to having a lower T level. If I had no testes I would consider a low dose of pharmacuetical hormones. With all the damage that allopaths have already done to me,...including the needless removal of my spleen,...my body is incompatable with high doses of pharmacuetical drugs. If that makes me less transgendered in your eyes, that's your thing.

Janelle

Lucy do not worry lass you have no need to see Deirde lol. There is nothing wrong with a girl wanting a good orgasm. But do be careful not to wake the neighbours lol. And a warning not to you lucy but to anyone taking viagra, it can last up to four hours. lol. Janey Woo. xxx

Janelle, Let me first correct you on your comment about ignorance. I choose not to read the Bible because 1. I have ADHD and it is difficult for me to sit down and read that type of writing with any level of comprehension. And 2. I choose to believe spiritually, not religiously. I had pointed out numerous times, all churches are not the same and no religion is better than the other. As for reading the contraindications on pharmaceutical products, probably more than anyone else I point out the contraindications and that is precisely why I encourage everyone to have medical supervision when they are using hormone products. I hope that clears that up. You might think I am jumping on you for taking herbals, you should see me jump on someone taking pharmaceuticals with no medical supervision. My only complaint on herbals is there is no uniform documentation on effectiveness, dosage, and safety. I am not arguing they may or may not be working for you.

The deeper you go into your experiences I better understand your dislike for doctors and as you call them gatekeepers. We are about the same age and early on I believed as you seem to that they would not understand what you were going through and therefore hold you back. But as I have actually gone through my transition and met many others, I have seen how medical and psychological care has changed for us over the years. There was a period that if you didn't pass 100%, they would hold you back from SRS. I imagine there are still pockets of psychologists that follow that line of thinking, but I can only express my experiences along with others that I personally know, and we have had no problems at all.

Medically, my dad had a life threatening incident as a kid when the removal of his tonsils went astray. For years he wanted nothing to do with doctors. He has since overcome that.

Orchiectomies can be a problem. The scrotal skin graft technique has become probably the most popular over the last few years and the more skin available the better the results. Orchi's can cause scar tissue to form limiting usable skin, and also once the testicles are removed you can get some shrinking of scrotal skin.

I just feel things have changed dramatically over the last 10-20 years that you should not rule out the care of doctors and therapist that now have better understanding and techniques for treating transsexuals.

Hugs,
Marsha

I would like to add my 2 cents to the current discussion.
Most "chemical or Biotech medicine operate on a macro level, not micro.
What this means they are truly effective or not based on a statistical number.
This numerical fact is open to massaging and at times gross manipulation.
But, important strides using this approach, especially in the chemical sphere, have been made and the "Biotech" explosion could produce more.
It is difficult, however, to claim this approach is science, at least in the classical sense, and it's more accurate to call it a bastardization of the scientific method, or perhaps a homage, as pure science represented by mathematics remains the lodestar that many a quasi or partial science attaches itself to. Think economics!!! The science of these efforts rely heavily on the prestige of math, and to some degree benefit from faith in science, not pure science itsef . To a large extent they engage in an elaborate mimesis.
As for the "natural" market it bases popularity on anti science prejudice, a confused spirituality, the placebo effect (very powerful), and the fact that production based on statistics leaves large numbers of people on the outside looking in. In other words, there exist a base market for the product, and one that can be easily, and cheaply expanded. The last point makes it hard to say they are totally without merit, but still it's hard to deny that a lot of them appear nothing but snake oil.

To give this thread a slightly more practical slant........One thing to remember,particularly for those of us of more 'mature' years is that hormones can be heavy on the liver. If you've been prescribed tablets,it is possible in some cases to take these sub-lingually i.e. let them dissolve under the tongue. This certainly works for the estradiol valerate I'm taking, and also for Androcur as well (and Androcur can be really hard on the liver). Taking hormones this way means that the liver only has to process them once when they leave the body, and also means that all the Oestrogen and the testo-blocker actually get to do their intended jobs. I find that breaking the tablets in two before they go under the tongue seems to help them dissolve more quickly.

Lynn H.

I do exactly the same, disolve under my tongue but will switch to patches when the tabs run out. Suposed to be better for us older gals.

hi girls,
more this one runs the more issues get raised wicked! hope i can remember all the points.
never to late to be your true self for sure, i'll be hitting the big 50 soon and only came to the comfort zone 4 years ago, i'm in a loving relationship but since i started on meds we have become plutonic which has become an issue of late, our doctor said yesterday "there are other ways to climax" bless him.But we have decided to stick together what ever and she will suport me to be 100% woman in stead of the 99.9% i am at the moment lol.
good tip with the pill under the tounge deff going to do that esp as i have decided to kick the vodka bouts so i'll be giving my inner bits a good old rest fab thread big up the girls of a certain age we are definatly worth it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
big hugs sabini xoxo

Hi Lauralea well I would like to know everything I am 50 somethingand every day wonder if I am to old to start hrt . So really any info would be helpful. Thanks Jackie

Hi Jackie, welcome to Gender Society. You are asking a loaded question when you say you want to know everything and whether or not being over 50 is too late to start HRT. Most of the questions need to be answered by you.

Why do you want to start HRT?
What are your expectations of what HRT will do for you?
Do you plan on fully transitioning?
How will this effect the people in your life? Your work? Your finances?

Anyone who is truly motivated can get their hands on hormones or herbal concoctions even if they are over 50, but just because you can acquire them does not make their use safe. And believe me, there are plenty that will argue they are safe based solely on they don't know anyone who has ever had a problem. The fact is, they just don't know enough people if they believe that.

So the most important question is what kind of health are you in?

Most men will say they are in great health or feel great. How do they know? The fact is most men avoid doctors like the plague. A recent news story about the School Board President in my city really highlights how men avoid doctors. It started with him asking his wife what she wanted for her 50th birthday. She told him she wanted him to have a full medical checkup as her gift. It turned out he had stage 7 prostate cancer. If that was not enough, when they did the CT scan leading up to surgery on the prostate, they discovered 3 abdominal aorta aneurysms that were near ready to burst. His wife's birthday gift literally saved his life.

When I first told my wife that I was on hormones, one of the first things she said to me is she wanted me to get a full physical because it had been years since first getting checked out for hormones. I did not have any health problems, but it was still one of the best things I ever did because to this day I have a great trusting relationship with my doctor.

I guess what I am saying is you are asking the wrong people whether or not you are too old for HRT. Please ask your doctor.

Hugs,
Marsha

Marsha,
Just a thought...I believe it would be a fabulous thing for this site to invite a Doctor and/or Endo and/or Gender Psychologist to the chat room from time to time. It may be of benefit to ALL concerned. The Professionals would see the extent of the situation in a dynamic chat and many of the "unasked" questions and mis-conceptions could be "brought to light".
The dates that these people would be in the "chat room" could be advertised.

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"and my needs entwined, like ribbons of light...and I came through the doorway, some where... in the night"

It is a nice thought Doanna. I'm not sure what doctor would be willing to do that and I for one have too much on my plate right now to attempt to track one down. We have experts in the FFS and SRS forums and they haven't replied to anyone's questions asked recently, what makes you think a psych or doctor would be any better.

Those large conferences like the Southern Comfort Conference in Atlanta every year are the places for the curious to ask questions about hormones. There the doctors are paid to speak and isn't that what it is all about, money. Other than that I totally believe it all is based on the individual and no two are exactly alike. That goes for the psych side as well as the medical side.

Hugs,
Marsha

why so concerned about climaxing? hasn't your hormone regime stopped it? lots of women don't climax and guys don't seemed too bothered if they can't make their women climax...

is a desire for a big mindblowing climax a male thing or not?

we hear teenage girls fantasizing about going out on friday night for great sex but does their night end with a bang or disappointment..?

On the whole sex/climax thing I have to say I've been surprised to read of the pre-surgery ritual of wringing the turkeys neck by one last masturbation...I had to ask how did the guy manage that unless he'd transitioned without hormones...or is the supposed long lay off from hormones on the weeks running up to surgery allowing the male bits to work again?

Then I see video of sex changea nd the person has really big/fullsize penis and testicles...have they really been on hormones for long? Have they been 'using it' right up to the last minute? Will they really be happy its gone or will they be the ones to regret losing it?

Nicest thing for me about being on hormones was that it stopped it working and both penis and testicles shrunk and looked very insignificant and 'not very male' after a few months.

(yes I know that this shrinkage may make problems at surgery stage but that is a matter for the surgeon to worry about not me)

but why need or take viagra?

Looks like its been a long time that anyone has posted here. Anyone still out there ?

Hi all, i am not at yet 4 plus years left. and it would be nice for the topic and talking of being not a spring chicken ow sorry . mind is gone alot lately. i am still messing with a regament that will work for me and i talk about what i try and yes or no about if i will continue. But how about some of the other things inwolved here. my feeling are in one place, with my meds i feel in a beter place. more calm and steady, not all mad and depressed. i do still smoke cigerattes and drink coffee, and i am trying to quit as well. i also wanted to tell others about what was going on with me my ups and moods, my rants and bad days. i know i am more of a talker about my life and ways. but i am more of an all in or out person and i have been out there along time. i have worn woman skinny jeans often and things kind of moved back on there own ( i knew nothing about tuking under) and always looked for blouses or pretty or color filled clothes. sorry any one that reads this i am so rambling on with same old words. i am just an older kid that wants to be in the skin and clothes i have always enjoyed and liked to wear all of the time day or night to shopping or some day again to work.

I can only attest to what I have done and I am 48 now. I started at 47 about 18 months ago. My Doctor started me out on Oral Estradiol Sublingually (under my tongue), Spirolactione 2x per day (1 in Am and 1PM) and Progesterone at sleep time.

He later added on a combination Estradiol and Progesterone Cream I use on my face in the morning as well as everything else.

 

My testosterone was at 475 last year and is 27 now. My Estrogen level is at 95 and climbing to he wants 125, and was <20 last year. My breast are a full "B" cup now and still growing. I do know that the younger ones seem to progress faster from what I read, but I will gladly take the results I have right now, since I really believe the turtle will win my race. I see my doctor quarterly and I am blood tested every 6 months throughly, and so far I am perfect in every category including my liver panels.

 

I have dropped over 103 lbs last year alone and in the process of losing an additional 30 for this year (I hope). Hormones make this a real challenge for me.

 

I hope this helps

I am 66. I was on a full regime of hormones as prescribed by my doctor. After 3 months, I developed a DVT. Now all of my doctors say I can never legally go back on hormone therapy. So what is a gurl supposed to do. In fact, I developed another DVT almost 2 yrs later that had nothing to do with me being on hormones!!! Are there others like me out there? Do we have options?

How about for us girls  over 60 Knew along time ago and even ventured a little ways but new had I done a complete transformation I would probably not be here today(aids).

So for the last two years have been on hormones and blockers wanting FFS but still waiting if not waiting forever.Iam married but the wife and family knows and tolerates it.

Iam lucky in the sense that I need to have my blood check every week for blood clots So not too worried yet about being on hormones.

Oh Did i forget to metion that I am 6'4" not fat but not slim ,so this is number one reason for not going any father.

Had I know abou FFS a few years earlier things might have been dfferent .

I think at some point will move to a tolerant safe area and then venture out in public only time will tell.

Hi girls it is great to read your experiences, as for me i am 56 yo and married to a beautiful woman. I started HRT approx 9 months ago, fortunately or not i had lost most of my Testosterone through trauma, my level is 0.7 at best which is good for transitioning, my breast are growing slowly as they do, dont we all wish to wake up and with something else starring us in the face instead of those old days long gone.

Can't wait for my time, it will take time,patience is what i keep telling myself patience, like most my wife is trying and tolerant the new me but they say love conquors and it is true.

My question is : my docotor hasnt put me on Progesterone as they believe it doesnt do anything, i buy it from Inhouse as it makes me feel much better and more as a woman, any thoughts from you girls on it or not. Would like to know what is best.

Have to love the journey.... why didnt we do this years ago?

Love and kisses Naomi

Joanne Lee said:
Hi Lauralea

It doesn't seem as if you are going to get many replies. I am a bit older than you but still on HRT and enjoying life and transitioning.
Despite all the warnngs etc I am a DIY person, but have an annual check up.

Hi I am a very late starter (in my 70th year), and have been HRT for about 8 months.   I have absolutely no regrets so far.  I have known since about aged 8 years that I wasn't in the right place!  In recent years I developed quite severe gynecomastia, and with no other solution than mastectomy on offer, I decided I will not  and would never be separated from my 'female secondary characteristics'!  It was the switch, that I wish I had turned on years ago.  Since HRT, my Body, Mind and Brain have been flushed with female hormones which they were craving ( without offended the faithful, it was like being born again!). In fact it is often called 'a second puberty', this is weird , but true (even at my age!).  Look  due to Hypertension I have been on a form of Spiro (Amolodapine for years), so I guess my totestogren receptors were being blocked, so female hormone infusion had a receptive sysem.

I have quite a good bust development( but I always did).  The most notable effects even afer a short period are, my body odour, urine no longer smell 'like a man'.  I am far more relaxed, sleep better, sweat less and am probably more emotional.  Look I didn't expect a renewed sex life, although my labido is reduced, when aroused, I have an incredible, even estatic orgasm which is sensed all over the body. The ejaculate is a clear fluid, I guess more like a female lubricante. I have regular blood and other checks, and so far PSA, Blood Glucose levels are lower and Blood Preesure normal.  What to say, other than I am happy. The down side; you must be committed to transition, since erectile disfunction is pretty inevitable and shrunken testes, no more erections though, (what a blessing to to be removed from an involuntary erection!). OK  I guess at my age, but may have a downside for younger gals who have not let go

Hope this helps Joanne and Lauralea.

 

This post was edited by Sally Scott at August 7, 2016 5:09 PM BST

yes it all so true the new you, the 2nd pubity such a wonderful experience. My wife is now finding things difficult to deal with the changes and wants a 'break' to see how she feels without me and the emotions as well as the physical changes which have been difficult to hold in, but i am learning.

Since my last post i had stopped the hormones for a few months as waiting to go through the proper channels and get bloods done etc glad i did as i was too keen and my levels way too high. So back on now for about 8 months boobs developing nicely and the fat distribution helping those beautiful hips. My issues now is that i might lose my wife , hoping that she will come back.

The facial hair is a pain as i live in Rural NSW Australia the electrolysist here refused to do my face said too expensive for me, too painful and will take a long time, who cares about that all i want is to rid myself of the gastly stuff.Went to one about 60 km away and now small scar tissue from the thermolysis now looking for where else to go. Soon i hope to find someone who can do it and i can be rid of all of it once and for all and my chest hair too.

The erections for me died when i was crushed, the labido has increased 10 fold but cant do anything about it, nothing but blood comes out for me so investigating cause oh well whats another issue i can face in my journey, i am still going forward. I had no real choice with the hormones as i had disasterous results with T and still lucky to be alive so E was the only way, fate took me by the hand.

It feels so good to finally be me inside even if i cant on the outside just yet.

For you all keep happy be yourself enjoy the new you enjoy the 2nd coming and love the life you have been given and the peolpe in it.

Naomi XXX