June 18, 2009 7:00 AM BST
It's a conundrum for me as I always thought that the Transgendered comunity was lumped with LGB for the simple reason of fighting a common cause of equality for everyone. However, it does seem that the greatest amount of discrimination and misrepresentation against transgender people is from the LGB comunity. It seems they are only interested in their own welfare regardless of who they neglect to acheive it, sounds very fascist to me.
Its very difficult for the trans community to represent its self as we are all in a transient state. The LGB comunity can have the same representatives for decades, where as the trend in the trans community seems to be that once people have created a good life in their required gender their links with the trans community tends to fade away, simply due to the lack of need.
I strongly believe society on the whole has got a lot better and will contunue to do so. There are a lot more people about today who realise that everyone deserves equal respect regardless of age, race, religion, orientation, weight, gender, health and so on. I cant believe how anyone can say that one group of people are superior or inferior, less or more important. Isnt that what Hitler did?
I'll get off my soap box now and let someone else have a go lol
Penny
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June 18, 2009 9:29 AM BST
I don't recognise myself here but can be it is like this? I'm a woman every minute of the day and have no problems with it what so ever besides going to the male toilet when I try? (I tried twice for fun but it was not successful) haha
Gay have no interests in me and I’ve got no interests in them so it’s equal but lesbians are also gay so I’m a gay lesbian and I’m happy with that.
xxx Natalie
June 18, 2009 9:02 PM BST
Penny you are welcome to stay on your soap box as long as you want honey! You know that! Nat, Thank you for your input on this subject! Along with everyone else! I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels strongly about this subject! I mean, I knew ya'll would agree but I didn't know everyone thought this strongly about the subject! Keep the comments coming and maybe it will be a TLGB world soon enough! Raise The Rebellion!
July 18, 2009 10:50 PM BST
Jenny , frst we do a very poor job of supporting ourselves ! If you were to come to Richmond Virginia some time and travel then to D C , I could make my point. very quickly ! look , I wont say whom but I was told by amember of the local Metropolitian Comunity Church that we were the Gays intertainment !!!!!!!!!!!! I see this every time Michiael Savage or Glen Beck go on about Transgendered Individuals as well . Savage even tough the man is extreemly well educated is'n't or wont educate himself as to what goes into the surgurcal processes for M to F surgury. Jerry Springer lukes about in the traile parksof Americato find the tawyist Transexuals who are obviously aren't fit to be on televiionusully due to a drug habit or the fact that they arent Phycologicly fit to be where they are ! Meanwhile , America sees us as the " Freak Show " we have allowed some of ourselves to be .
Then too , in public how do we present ourselves ? I got reamed real good on a Yahoo group bout this last year as I tried to explain this to some folks who obviosly not wanting to hear the truth . Too many of us are " Working the streets, selling ourselves and or drugs " I go to the clubs and I see some Crossdresser who is sitting with his legs wide open and swilling a beer as if he were at a ball game ! No class I tell you , no class !
Look, if you are going to spend the day picking out an outfit and spend two hours slathering on make-up , pay attention as to your manerisms ! Pay attention to what you're going to wear ! Make sure that it is an apperoperate item to be seen in ! If ya dress like a slut , how can you expect to be taken seriously in a club ?
I get complements from Real women all the time about where I find so an so . Still get read , but no one says a word and those that do enerally want to know what I have had to endure to become the woman I am . Then we generally go onto shoppig conversations
Some of you are going to climb al over me over my views . I'm expecting some flak over what have said but , I'm going to stand firm here, so e-mail me with yer best shot ! Ellen S
July 19, 2009 10:30 PM BST
You are so right Ellen. I've made the same comments here in the past so it will be interesting to see if you get jumped on as much as I did nearly two years ago. Sadly many see this as a game and don't understand how it reflects badly on those of us who try to survive daily because we live this way. The old saying is "If it bleeds it leads" and sadly we have a lot of bleeding in our community.
Hugs,
Marsha
June 17, 2009 2:57 PM BST
I can understand your rant Jenny. The gay community likes to include TG people when they need numbers to make a point, but often turn their backs afterwards. Personally, we shouldn't be lumped together with them anyway since ours is not a sexual issue but one of gender. We are only grouped there because someone thought it would be a good idea to put all the 'wierdos' together!
A disgrace to the gay community???? Good, fantastic, since I didn't ask to be grouped in that community in the first place and don't belong there!!!
Grrrrr!
Nikki
June 17, 2009 7:00 PM BST
Jenny, you go girl!
June 18, 2009 1:12 AM BST
OOps, had'nt realised you'd duplicated the post, so I'll duplicate my response - you don't escape that easy!
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Hi Jenny,
I suspect we could all do with a rant every now and again!
I must confess, 'tho, I'm not comfortable in the slightest with having our community lumped onto the tail end of the LGB one. But thats just my feeling and personal opinion.
Did enjoy your last paragraph. Just inform the ignorant one at a time...
Much love
Rae x
June 19, 2009 11:04 AM BST
what is interesting about the GLBT attitude to transsexuals is that a lot of the most transphobic writers/researchers etc are actually G or L and a lot of the straight ones are probably B...
July 19, 2009 12:03 AM BST
Which part are you expecting to get climbed all over for, Ellen?
July 19, 2009 4:42 PM BST
LOL Ellen.. love it.
I was telling the head shrink at the gender clinic about the lack of visible femaleness in the guys who sit legs apart/swilling beer...I said if there is a female in the male body she should be showing herself espcailly after start of transition or getting out of closet..
no law against being a crossdresser but it just feeds the bigots...
now I will get called trannier than thou yet again.
July 19, 2009 7:17 PM BST
It is, and always will be, about being free to be ourselves, whoever that may be...Cis, Trans, Gay, Lesbian, Inter-sexed and........
