April 10, 2012 9:21 AM BST
April 10, 2012 7:42 PM BST
Hi Aphey, I don't think Diane 35 will help with hair loss, at least I've never heard of it doing so. It may help with pimples, possibly.
To prevent further hair loss, here in the UK we may be prescribed finasteride or dutasteride. I take finasteride, only very small doses are required to keep hair loss at bay (1/20th gram or less), so it needn't be expensive.
I've not heard of Diane 35 causing depression, but maybe that could be down to the cyproterone acetate (which is not a progestogen as an earlier poster suggested).
Both the drugs in Diane 35 are high risk. It would be safer to take 17B estradiol and finasteride, but no-one can promise that these will solve your problems. I've always had problems with pimples, still do aged nearly 49. Taking hormones may not be the answer.
If you're taking birth control pills regularly, especially these ones, you should also be having regular blood tests and seeking expert advice.
TS's require long-term hormone treatment, so such risky types should be avoided.
xx
April 10, 2012 10:53 PM BST
Thanks Lucy
I knew it was finasteride because I used to take it too.
Fortunately though I don't have a hair problem and have never been particularly hursuit either.
Regards
cb
April 11, 2012 9:22 AM BST
thnak you so much Lucy and chalice for shw your concerns to me i really appriciate but the thing is i live in pakistan and they are not at all supportive with LGBTs so noone guides me wat to take .. and chalice this wat uve told me finasteride is this a hormone would i get iot from here?
April 11, 2012 9:58 AM BST
hay about this finesteride iam getting it in 5 mg by the name of proscar should i take it? and wat dose?
April 11, 2012 10:13 AM BST
Hi Aphley
Its a tricky business.
I used to get finesteride/proscar from an online pharmacy.
5mg 1 tablet daily.
But, you can get burned using the net.
Can you travel?
I think India would have cheap meds.
cb
April 11, 2012 10:19 AM BST
ok chalicice iam relly fact do u think i shud still take i med a day and wud it reducew ma body hair or i shud keep diane with it?
April 12, 2012 4:43 AM BST
Do not take this drug. DVT and pulmonary embolism could result. P.E. Can be Fatal!I lucked out and survived.
April 12, 2012 11:52 PM BST
wat drug r u tlking about Jan and wat is DVT pulmonary embolism?
April 13, 2012 12:29 AM BST
Aphey, DVT and pulmonary embolism are risks associated with Diane 35 that can cause death.
It is foolish to take this drug unsupervised. Even more so when you seem to have no idea of the risks you are taking.
Don't take Diane 35, instead look for 17-Beta estradiol, for example "Estrofem".
Proscar should be taken in very small doses, you need to cut a 5mg pill into tiny pieces, 10 or 20 if possible.
If you are going to self-medicate you MUST research more and understand exactly what you are doing.
April 13, 2012 5:00 AM BST
yikes! Get off the diana35 as soon as possible...you do need to research things before you end up killing yourself...there's tons of resources out there including here...I know Yahoo has a "Do it yourself hormone" group...you might try there as well...
April 13, 2012 5:02 AM BST
Aphey, Diane 35.DVT or Deep Vein Thrombosis is blood clots forming in your legs when the clot blocks vein swelling and really bad pain results. If Clot breaks up,It'll most likely pass through your heart.When it does this ,it's called Pulmonary Embolisum. This is lethal in majority of cases. My Dr. told me that 97% of people that have clot as large as I had pass through heart don't survive.I had insurance that paid all but $2000 of $75,000 medical bill,but I don't want to wake up in ICU ever again. I'm now on blood thinners(Warfarin) for the rest of my life.
This post was edited by jan jefferies at April 13, 2012 5:07 AM BST
April 13, 2012 5:21 AM BST
Warfarin...you do know it's other application, right? There HAS to be another alternative...is it working OK for you Jan?
April 13, 2012 5:25 AM BST
Yes,but it seems to work bets for long term usage. Dr. monitors me closely .I also have genetic condition called Factor 5 Leiden. Wikipedia has good article about it.
April 13, 2012 5:28 AM BST
glad to hear you're OK...the clots are truly dangerous, and certain forms of estrogen are far more likely to initiate them then others...
April 13, 2012 5:36 AM BST
Patches or IM injection poses least amount of risk.Also stop smoking whatever form of estrogen you use.
April 14, 2012 10:17 PM BST
wat is 17-Beta estradiol
April 15, 2012 12:50 AM BST
Try wikipedia or google. good definitions there.
April 15, 2012 1:45 AM BST
Aphey, it's the human form of estradiol (estrogen), the type that we make in our bodies. We no longer need to rely on extremely risky and dangerous forms of synthetic estrogen (such as found in Diane 35), as 17-beta estradiol can now be made in a laboratory.
You need to do seriously do some homework if you are going to DIY hormones; more than just asking questions here, though we are glad to help if we can. If you are going to take responsibility for your own health then you need to start learning, big time.
If you don't know the difference between ethinylestradiol (which you are taking) and 17-beta estradiol (which you probably should be taking) then you need to go away and find out.
In short, Aphey, with such lack of knowledge, you are playing Russian roulette with your life.
xx
April 15, 2012 8:08 AM BST
so lucy wat do u suggest i should look for on the web
April 15, 2012 11:29 AM BST
INFORMATION! I am not your doctor. You need to be better informed.
xx
April 15, 2012 12:03 PM BST
Ali
As there are no available doctors in your area, I suggest you visit other transgender sites/yahoo groups such as Do it yourself hormones and Crone
April 15, 2012 5:32 PM BST
Yes,Ali. Best advice I can give you is to read read read as much as you can before taking any medication.Even those prescribed by your doctor.
This post was edited by jan jefferies at April 15, 2012 5:33 PM BST
April 15, 2012 6:58 PM BST
Aphey...you are playing with a loeaded gun here. YOU must do your homework, study up on the cause and effects of each drug on your body, come up with some safe protocol, then you can ask others for their opinions. and remember, they are just opinions from people who are not doctors nor qualified to offer them other than their personal experience. Everybody's body is different. That is why it is sooo important to see a doctor, get your body checked out first, etc. before you begin taking these things. Many of the effects are not reversible and they are not things to to be taken lightly. If you cannot find information, you are not trying hard enough...do not expect others to determine what is best for you...
Best wishes always...
Traci xoxo
April 17, 2012 7:46 AM BST
so u ppl think estrofem is better thn diane and safer too?
April 17, 2012 9:14 PM BST
yes...but if someone told you to jump off a cliff, would you just jump, or maybe look into it a little before you leaped?
April 18, 2012 2:14 PM BST
Hi Aphey
I started here:
http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/resources/tmf_program/tmf_program_regimens.asp
Then follow the yellow road of medical research and,
Good Luck
April 26, 2012 10:09 PM BST
hayy a doctor told me to use Androcur(cypoterone acetate) 50 mg morning n 50 mg night nd premarine 0.03 mg 1 pill a day nd im using it wid finesteride 5 mg a day is tht okay can neone guide me?
April 26, 2012 10:13 PM BST
Premarin??? Noooooooooooooooo....Estrofem or Progynova (estreadiol valerate)....no Premarin, no diana, nothing with a trace of "ethynol....Androcur will halt your T production fairly quickly, but you must find a different source for estrogen.
April 28, 2012 6:25 AM BST
y wat will premarine do?
April 28, 2012 7:03 AM BST
Much more effective meds out there, and no issues with animals. Premarin is made from horse urine.
April 28, 2012 7:05 AM BST
Seriously,You need to be reading about these medications so you can work with your doctor as to the best meds to be taking.
April 29, 2012 4:54 AM BST
Ali
At the start of this thread both I and Lucy recommended you take 17b estrogen etc
wats da difference between estradiol beta 17 n estradiol velarte
January 3, 2013 7:11 AM GMT
What can I say?
My endocrinologist is trying to kill me!
lol
February 14, 2013 12:31 AM GMT
My advice is Just don't take any advice from anyone who posts things like this on the home page. There is contradiction then there is contradition at its best. I collect them just to jog poor memories. PS: The months is more rubbish at the time it was posted I had only been a member for 3 weeks.
This post was edited by Former Member at February 14, 2013 6:21 PM GMT
February 14, 2013 8:26 AM GMT
Sandrena gel is obtainable in Oz
February 14, 2013 6:31 PM GMT
I would have thought in most countries if a product was not available it can be ordered by a pharmacist , its here the next day in the UK if they don't have it.
Australia is not a third world country. I doubt anything that is posted by that member just because it makes no sense and has no logic. Maybe they realy live in Outer Mongolia or dream world.
This post was edited by Former Member at February 14, 2013 6:33 PM GMT
February 14, 2013 8:23 PM GMT
Depends on Government regulations Julia
February 14, 2013 9:10 PM GMT
Joanne.
True and I admit I don't know your regulations.
Can you answer this. Why would a doctor in Australia give a prescription to anyone for things not available there? Are the doctors stupid or something?.
February 16, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
I would say it is next to impossible. A doctor would not do that. Most of the drugs are used by women going through menapause. He or she would check the availability which is simple as everything is available on the computer. If the doctor is an immigrant the Board does not accept all medical degrees and many have to return to University for further study before reapplying to practise. UK/Irish doctors are recognised.
This post was edited by Joanne Lee at February 16, 2013 2:38 AM GMT
February 16, 2013 10:34 AM GMT
Just as I thought Joanne!
It also confirms "Yet again" The person which this is about talks out of their rear end.
