Have you noticed this site dieing?

    • 129 posts
    July 31, 2010 9:59 PM BST
    Hi all .
    I just wondered if anyone else has noticed this site seems to be dieing slowly?
    i sometimes log in to find i am the only one here which for a site with so many members seems rather strange.

    So whats causing it? i read in another thread the chat room is dead and someone said it could be due to the summer holidays! that does not make sense as some have more spare time in the holidays .

    So here is my theory . Promoting other sites that do not promote this one (i have checked) That is not good business sense , its called shooting yourself in the foot .

    There is no value for money here as other sites offer more for less .

    And now the site owner seems to have done a bunk too , maybe shes bored with it too

    Katie this site will die if it continues this way .

    Julia xxx .
    • 434 posts
    August 1, 2010 2:33 AM BST
    Julia,
    I have noticed that the number of people in the chat rooms can be low at times - but things slow down in the summertime.
    However, the number of members on this site appears to be growing steadily.
    It also depends on what time you are here - living in Canada (~ 5hrs ahead of the UK) and usually logging in around 10 PM often means that the only members from the UK in the chat room are the Die-Hard nighthawks. Usually, when I come on line - most of the members are from the USA or Canada.
    I fully expect that when the fall arrives - the activity level will pick up.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    "and my needs entwined, like ribbons of light...and I came through the doorway, some where... in the night"
  • August 1, 2010 3:50 AM BST
    This vary question has been asked on a couple of other sites I belong to. I guess it's jus ta fact of summer, Everyone else has lives to live outside the web lol.
    • 171 posts
    August 1, 2010 9:39 AM BST
    'And now the site owner seems to have done a bunk too'
    Julia - I think we all 'own' it - we share a collective responsibility.
    Rachel
  • August 1, 2010 9:57 AM BST
    It's the summer!
    We don't get much of it in Scotland and I'd rather be out in the good weather than sitting in front of a laptop.
    Wait till the cold starts to creep in.
    It's the same on all social networks.
    • 1912 posts
    August 1, 2010 1:55 PM BST
    I've been here nearly four years now and have seen the cycle repeat itself like clockwork. Fortunately for me I came here in the fall of 06 when I was an emotional wreck needing someone to talk to. Most evenings there were several gals in chat. I came out to my wife during this period and had numerous friends here that helped me work through this difficult time. Almost like Julie has described things now, in early spring it seemed like no one was here. But as cooler weather moved in around the civilized world, so came back the gals. I think the TG population is somewhat transient, so there are always a new mix of faces.

    I think TSs as someone else said, go on with their lives, and other TGs go through cycles in their lives where they purge and rebuild. I also believe as TGs gradually become more accepted, the frequency of local functions increase and fill the social needs gals are looking for. I also believe one day there will be no need for social sites like this when our acceptance becomes universal and the socializing we do will be based more on our interests rather than what we are. I see that already happening in the bigger cities where the TG community is large.

    Hugs,
    Marsha
    • 129 posts
    August 1, 2010 9:10 PM BST
    Hi all .
    I live a very hectic life and get very little free time , i think i log in here nearly everyday at some point and as i said very few people are on line and i have even logged in to find 1 person in the chat room according to "whos here" who are they talking to? is there a virtual person in there? i just find it strange out of thirty something thousand members i can count them on one hand most days .

    Karen! Katie does not reply to mails , i sent her one over 3 weeks ago and she ignored it and as i was offering to help i found that very rude but it seems the norm on here sometimes .

    Julia xx.
    • 404 posts
    August 2, 2010 12:36 PM BST
    Julia,

    has it never occurred to you that June/July/August are holiday months and that Katie is perhaps taking a well-earned holiday. Believe it or not, rumour has it that she has another busy life, with commitments etc., outside GS................

    Lynn H.
    • 129 posts
    August 2, 2010 10:36 PM BST
    Rea.
    Don,t patronise me , there is nothing bizarre about this thread apart from some pathetic excuses and i do not need to resend my email "it was read" , i sent the email Katie looks at my profile i get no reply "simple" knowone needs to be a brain surgeon to work that out .
    Do you lot realy think Katie runs this place alone? well she does not .

    I started this as i had noticed a lack of people on here and for a site with over 30 thousand members it is "THAT IS BIZARRE" .

    To ignore is derived from to word ignorant so thanks for the apoligie Katie (thats in advance as i am still waiting).

    Julia .
    • 129 posts
    August 5, 2010 10:46 PM BST
    ERR Have you all finished Julia bashing???? .

    Ok i accept one of Katies operators may have read my mail and binned it BUT Anal- Maria "i don,t forget anything" , i actualy know that pic of you is over 5 years old and both of your orifices are huge compared to mine , insult me i will insult you , i realy don,t care if you have met Katie and i am sure you licked her ? whats the word ? oh boots silly me .



    I started this thread as an observation not to get this crap .

    I know to most of you important things like where can i buy shoes from? is top priority TRY A BLOODY SHOE SHOP but i happen to take the problems of being transgendered more seriously , don,t any of you care that young TGs are ending there lives as they can,t find anywhere to turn to?? .

    I made an offer to Katie to promote this site as a place for them to turn to and IT WAS IGNORED ,it seems that promoting porn sites on the home page is more important .

    I bloody give up , you all worry about shoes and knickers but know way whist i still have breath in me am going to sit back and let our future kill themselves .

    Julia.
    • 2573 posts
    August 1, 2010 4:54 AM BST
    In fact, Katie is investing considerable effort and expense at the moment to renovate GS from the ground up and increase it's abilities to provide current-technology content to members. One cannot trust the current system to accurately show who is on site. It has built in delays and sometimes the function that shows that goes walkabout. This is very old technology in the online world. Even posting the news feed can involve a long delay before it comes up on GS....or, it can be there almost instantly. I suspect, many of these issues will be fixed or reduced with the new system. Such changes cannot just be implemented willy-nilly. You have no idea how much work just the site name change involved. We are still working on that. Computer code creates a rat's nest of connections that have to be fixed one by one. Imagine the problems involved in changing the basic code for the entire site. Have faith. It is coming. In addition, any member has the opportunity to offer one-time or ongoing contributions to the site from small,TG hints to moderating a forum on a daily basis.

    I guess we get spoiled. As a child I would have given anything for the help I have found here. Today, people don't appreciate what they have because they don't remember when there was almost no information available, if there was any it was inaccurate and incomplete, and we were all alone. My life was lived as a lie and self-deception and in fear. That is gone, for the most part. I hope I never forget where and how that happened. Most of it happened here. Sis years, 10% of my life, yet it is only here that I have really begun to live "my" life. I have yet to find anyplace that provides what I have here. I hope it is always here for those who need it.
    • 2627 posts
    August 1, 2010 3:19 PM BST
    Right now Katie spends long hours on the new site she's building. She has a lot done but still has a lot more to do. Right now she has forums, blogs, videos & chat along with some other stuff up & running. I like the home page it's very much like facebook in that you can make comments without having to start a thread.
    It's a huge undertaking that will keep her away from this site for long periods a a time.
    But if there is a problem send her an email & she will respond. She allways has.
    • 2627 posts
    August 1, 2010 9:32 PM BST
    That who's there & where they are does not work right.
    If Katie didn't answer an email than she didn't get it. Since changing the name of this site some email addresses are no longer there.
    Julia I'm sure Katie would be gratefull at your offer to help.
    • 734 posts
    August 1, 2010 11:05 PM BST
    What a very bizarre thread!
    The site isn't 'dying' - strange perception - it's waiting. If you access the site as frequently as you claim then you will be fully aware that Katie is working furiously to upgrade the software and relaunch. That's what we are all waiting for. Patient and eager.
    You say you sent Katie an email three weeks ago but have had no response? Have you resent it? So many mails slip innocently into a spam filter without the recipient appreciating it was received. I have had no problem with email communication with Katie.
    The software running this site is old and dysfunctional. Often there are more people here than it lets you know...
    Bear with it hunni.
    Best wishes
    Rae
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    • 2127 posts
    August 2, 2010 9:52 PM BST
    Hi girls and thanks for sticking up for me. I'm not bunking off. I've been here all along, 7 days a week, except for yesterday when I had to visit some relatives.

    I've been busy working on our new site as Karen Brad will testify. I've attached a sneaky preview screenshot of the new site for anyone who doesn't believe it exists...

    I've also been busy working on The Trib and on the September issue of Frock Magazine, and a hundred other chores that have to be done. In the last two weeks, I've also been working on the launch of our new ad network at http://gsadnet.com which has taken up a heap of my time.

    I'm probably one of the busiest people you know.

    And the site is not dying. I hate it when people spread rumours like that. Our traffic levels were actually higher for July than for the previous month. The chat room has always been fairly quiet here because we're not a meat market like some other sites.

    And yes, I would love to take a break somewhere nice and just switch off for a while. My last vacation is a dim and distant memory now, from February 2009 and I won't be taking any holidays this year at all.

    So please bear with us a bit longer while we get the new site together. It will be worth the wait. Honest!

    Hugs, Katie x
    • 734 posts
    August 2, 2010 10:07 PM BST
    Katie,
    Thanks for the screenshot of the forthcoming site - looks WELL worth the wait! gsadnet looks interesting as well...
    Best wishes
    Rae
    • 734 posts
    August 2, 2010 10:59 PM BST
    Julia.
    Absolutely nothing patronising about my post, simply my personal perspective. I rather thought my comments were the epitome of politeness!
    So, Katie viewed your profile to refresh her memory of who you were. Maybe that was in light of some of your posts. Maybe on receipt of your email prior to a response. Maybe her response wasn't received by you or you haven't yet checked your spam filter. You seem to think sending an email - or receiving one - is a 100% guaranteed form of communication. It isn't.
    As you like your etymology, you'll be aware that 'ignore' comes from the latin 'ignarus' which means 'not knowing, unaware' so - as you point out - perhaps Katie really is unaware of your email ...
    Best wishes
    Rae
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    • 2127 posts
    August 2, 2010 11:26 PM BST
    I have received no emails from you Julia and I certainly do not owe you any apologies.

    Katie
    • 2068 posts
    August 2, 2010 11:45 PM BST



    Why the hell SHOULD katie apologise Julia??......i think its YOU who should be apologising to Katie. You forget one thing here, i've actually MET katie & she's a real Nice person who does not need & does not WANT your quite ridiculous comments. Seems to me like you're talkin out of BOTH of your orifices!


    Anna-Marie
    • 2573 posts
    August 3, 2010 10:08 AM BST
    OK, LADIES!



    This thread is heating up and about to boil over. I understand the loyalty to Katie that some of you feel. Getting angry at Julia may be tempting but, Julia, your posts make me wonder what you need here that you are not getting and how/if GS can meet that need. The fact that you are here and still posting indicates to me that you are getting something out of Gender Society and are frustrated by your inability to get something else from it.

    Now we can't generate people in chat rooms. We do have Chat Hostesses but not for every hour of the day. I seldom get in there, myself, anymore because of taking on other tasks for the site. So we probably need more Chat Hostess volunteers. The reason why you may see one person in the chat room is because they are waiting patiently for another person to show up to chat....or it may be a Chat Hostess who has placed herself "on duty". People can arrange to host a special chat session with a celebrity or person who can share their experiences/knowledge for a one time session. Just contact the person in charge. Some Forums have no moderator volunteer. Just contact the person in charge. There are other jobs, behind the scenes where a lot of work is done. The Tribune is always looking for writers.

    I do not know if you are aware, but a DOS attack or SPAM assault or other actions from an email service can result in temporary bans on that service. These are often short lived and mail can be lost or mss-delivered as SPAM or other Junk mail. The US Postal Service is not perfect either. I can verify that, in over six years, I have never had to wait for a reply from Katie for more than two days, and often it's under an hour. This was true before I was a site administrator. Katie even replies when I tell her not to bother. So if you did not hear from her, she almost certainly did not get your email.

    I would suggest putting your anger aside and just starting from the beginning. Trying to accomplish something with anger is like trying to grow a garden with a flamethrower. Katie cares but she is very busy. I am busy here, and I have far, far less to do than Katie does. I don't know how Merideth finds the time to produce her Tribune every month. The best way to get change is to make it. What can you do, what do you want to do to create that change? When Trolls and hatemongers infested our chat room, members stepped forward to be chat moderators and remove the infestation. They got a pretty safe chat-room out of it, relatively free from wankers, as my UK Sisters put it.

    People, lets not fight. Let's fix the problems. There are too few of us in the world to waste time displacing our anger on each other. There is too much to be done here to waste all that effort. This is not just a commercial site but a social and educational and support site and that part has to come from us. Katie is busy providing the infrastructure that gives us an opportunity that was not there 20 yrs ago. If you are not part of the solution, please, please do not be part of the problem.
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    • 2127 posts
    August 6, 2010 1:24 PM BST
    Come on girls, calm down. Let's not squabble in a public forum.

    I must say though, I'm mystified about the porn sites we apparently promote on the home page. To prevent further public arguing, I will close this thread now and will drop Julia a line to find out what porn sites she means.

    Hugs, Katie x