Rae,
It sounds like you honestly believe that those of us who would condone torture (water-boarding and sleep deprivation etc..) - if it would save innocent lives, would not feel terrible at having to do so. Nothing could be further from the truth! - but I guess it is convenient for you to assume that.
Penny,
you say that,
1) "Torture is torture. No civilised person will enact or condone torture. If anyone condones torture then they should accept that they are neither civilised or an enlightened individual."
** It must be wonderful to be so civilized and enlightened as you obviously believe you are...
2) "I will also go as far as to say the Pope is not a meek person as he has quite clearly stated that particular people in society should be persecuted and treated with disrespect and that’s why I have no respect for him. "
** I have never heard him say that particular people should be persecuted. Perhaps you "hear things" that most of us don't.
** It seems that it is OK for you to have no respect for someone ...particularly if they don't agree with - YOUR opinions...
** Tell me something, how does what you have posted (above) relate to "Water-boarding?"
3) "Try not to confuse freedom with being civilised. I recall a line from Ghostbusters, "Its every New Yorkers god given right to be horrid to everyone.", which of course is true, but it doesn’t mean it is civilised behaviour."
** Being such a "civilized and enlightened" individual as you feel you are... I question why any "reasonable" person would use a movie like "ghostbusters" to form (or validate) an opinion about anything....
** The Asian fellow you met (mentioned later in your post) was horrid...wasn't he?
** Tell me something, how does what you have posted (above) relate to "Water-boarding?"
4) "Also, a meek person wouldn’t carry a gun or fire one either. I could go on with my opinion but I hope I have expressed my feelings sufficiently. Thanks for listening and respecting my opinion. "
** Hmmmm, I wonder what Country you are referring to... But then, you also based your evidence (above "3)") on the "Ghostbusters" movie. LOL, LOL
** It's a pity that you have no tolerance for other peoples opinions.
** Tell me something, how does what you have posted (above) relate to "Water-boarding?"
5) "I'm not particularly religious but the Bible does have its uses, for example, Jesus is quoted to say the meek will inherit the earth. A meek person is a gentle person who does not harm, threaten or cause any individual feelings of worthlessness or shame."
** The height of hypocrisy! You are only too quick to quote Jesus...if it serves your purpose..You then inject your own interpretation to what Jesus said by adding "A meek person is a gentle person who does not harm, threaten or cause any individual feelings of worthlessness or shame." ...just so it will fit your own perspective.
** Tell me something, how does what you have posted (above) relate to "Water-boarding?"
6) "The other day my path crossed an Asian youth who took great delight in saying "All gays should be killed." I have nothing against gays and I said that this is a civilised country where everyone has the right to live in peace and free from persecution. I promptly called the police where he was arrested and probably deported."
** good for you!! I'm certain that "made your day". Tell me Penny, did you paths cross on the way to the "Welfare Office"?
...but then of course, what does most of what you have posted here have to do with "Water-boarding"???
Penny, do you paint?
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"The empty-handed painter from your streets
Is drawing crazy patterns on your sheets." ...Bob Dylan
<p>Doanna Highland</p>