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  • <---USA girl...sorry, cannot help!

    <p>Traci</p>
      February 8, 2015 11:57 PM GMT
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  • Hi girls, I am having issues with finding out the legality of obtaiing estrogens from outside Australia to self medicate.

     Does anyone know if i can get some into Australia legally without going through GP.

     

    Thanks

      February 8, 2015 4:54 AM GMT
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  • Yeah, I get that...bummer...it sux...

    Best wishes always!

    Traci

    <p>Traci</p>
      April 2, 2014 6:08 AM BST
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  • Okay, thanks, Traci.  Someone over on reddit sent me to a list, but there is nothing closer than a 2 hr 40 min drive from me.  There is nothing in Kentucky, and nothing in Southern Ohio.  You simply have to set up an appointment and see the doctor.  If you have the bloodwork ready before you see the doctor, then you are in position to discuss meds and dosages.  If not, then it's basically a wasted visit and you will be at the mercy of the doctor when he or she sees the results of the bloodwork.  

      April 2, 2014 5:56 AM BST
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  • Those are all major cities...and they ought to have clinics...and these clinics dipsense HRT easily via implied consent, especially if you have been self medicating.  I know there is a list out there in the 'net that lists such clinics, but I've ben unable to locate it for you.  I'll contact you if or when I find it.  

    Traci

    <p>Traci</p>
      April 2, 2014 4:55 AM BST
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  • What would you define as a major city?  The closest 'big cities' to me are Louisville, KY (2.5 hour drive), Indianapolis, IN (3 hour drive) and Cincinnati, OH (1.5 hour drive).

     

    I think there is some confusion here as to what complied consent is.  Under the old WPATH 6.0 SOC you needed a letter of referral from a therapist in order for an endo to provide you with HRT (the dosages would be up to the endo/doctor).  Under the 7.0 SOC you don't need a therapist's letter, but doctor is still going to make the decision as to what meds/dosages he or she puts you on.  

     

    In my case the only benefit the 7.0 SOC provides, if the doctor is going by the SOC, is that I don't need months and months of therapy before asking the doctor to put me on HRT.  

      April 2, 2014 3:30 AM BST
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  • That stinks Kristy...many states do comply with the "implied consent" agreement today...how far are you from a major city?

    Traci 

    <p>Traci</p>
      April 2, 2014 2:43 AM BST
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  • Traci, in this part of the country (Kentucky & Ohio) you're not going to be able to call around and get a nurse practicioner to write you a script.  It doesn't work that way.  They will set up an appointment to see a doctor who, after a conversation, may (unlikely unless you're already self-medicating) or may not write a script.  In almost all cases bloodwork will have to be drawn, and the results looked at, before a script will be written.  In my case the doctor did the bare minimum because he hasn't seen the bloodwork results yet.  Also, in this area there are no clinics that allows you to file and sign an "implied consent" agreement.  Not only do they not agree with that, but it does nothing to line their pockets.  They "have to see you first".  In my case the first doctor said she is not going to write ANY scripts (and will never write anything for treating hair loss) until she has seen bloodwork.  The second doctor said he he would see me in three months and that he'll go from there.  Sounds to me like the doctor is running the show.  What am I going to do, show up with a gun and make them write a script?  

      April 2, 2014 2:33 AM BST
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  • Kristy...sorry you've run into some obvious people who could care less about you.  That said, all you really needed to do to get a prescription is either call around to doctor's office and get a nurse practioner to write you a script or find a clinic that allows you file and sign an "implied consent" agreement, which basically means you understand the risks and are willing to do it anyways.  Don't give up so easily when you get crummy advice Kristy...it is YOUR life and the doctors work for you, not the other way around Kristy.  That's a few of the ways it is different Kristy!

    Best wishes always...

    Traci

    <p>Traci</p>
      April 1, 2014 11:44 PM BST
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  • Traci Lee O'Gara said:
    It's different here in the US Chalice...
    How is it different?  I live in Kentucky.  So far, JUST to get on HRT (and it's not even a good start!) I've had to pay the following:
    endocrinologist A in Lexington, KY: $75 patient fee + $225 office visit
    * all she did was dismiss my suggestions of treating hairloss, saying "they're all junk, just go buy a wig..."
    * she gave me an order for bloodwork and told me to "shop around, good luck"
    Because I was so unhappy with the way things went I found another endo in Cincinnati, OH.  With him I paid the following:
    endocrinologist B in Cincinnati, OH: $75 patient fee + 43% ($153) of office visit
    * all he did was get my blood taken there and told me he would write up a script and send it to WalMart pharmacy, his stupid nurse couldn't even correctly submit the order after 3 tries, after I called the doctor's office enough times about it they just phoned in the order to pharmacy
    * and what did the doctor order (after I had told him that I've been on HRT before with no negative side effects)?
    1mg Estrace
    5mg Proscar .....that's it.
    This is all without insurance, of course, but even if I had insurance I would have had to pay for it all out of my pocket anyway just to meet my deductible, so ......
    it IS just as bad here in the USA. 
      April 1, 2014 11:10 PM BST
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  • Joanne Lee said:
    Any hormones purchased without a script will cost more.I have been dealing with them for a few years and have nothing but praise for the quality and delivery.

    Hi. I am amazed to read that prescription hormones are as low as 6 times cheaper that those from InHouse; I live in Mexico and you cannot order from them but their prices are about half of what the hormones cost at the drugstore.

      August 7, 2013 12:04 AM BST
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  • Joanne Lee said:
    Any hormones purchased without a script will cost more.I have been dealing with them for a few years and have nothing but praise for the quality and delivery.

    Hi. I am amazed to read that prescription hormones are as low as 6 times cheaper that those from InHouse; I live in Mexico and you cannot order from them but their prices are about half of what the hormones cost at the drugstore.

      August 6, 2013 11:59 PM BST
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  • Ever look at my profile? (smile)
    <p>Traci</p>
      April 17, 2013 5:11 AM BST
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  • Traci Lee O'Gara said:
    It's different here in the US Chalice...

    Huh? I thought you were in Ireland.  

     

      April 17, 2013 4:44 AM BST
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  • The UK Human Medicines Regulations 2012  (SI 2012 /1916)


    Part 14 (advertising) consolidates, with only minor and drafting amendments, the Medicines (Advertising) Regulations 1994, as amended, and the Medicines (Monitoring of Advertising) Regulations 1994, as amended. In doing so, it continues to implement Directive 2001/83/EC. Part 6 of the 1968 Act, which made parallel provision, is repealed, and the instruments made under it revoked.


    http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2010:348:0074:0099:EN:PDF


    As far as I can see, no specific drug is being advertised, and it is noted on this site.  ''
    To satisfy the requirements of Regulation 7 of the UK Medicines (Advertising) Regulations 1994, this site is not intended for those people who reside in the United Kingdom''.  ((as ammended))  is in comliance with the act.


    I should imagine in the UK Customs and excise would be the first line of control for the declared import of various medicines and drugs.


    Seperate FDA regulations are applicable to the USA,  different regulations for Canada. same goes for Australia, where it would seem customs and Import authories have lists of products they will not allow and some they will.

    Cristine Jennifer Shye** Beware the toes you tread on today, they might be attached to the arse your forced to kiss tomorow. Contenplating involvement with a man? Make sure you can cook realy well or face having sex on a regular basis. Men are like paving slabs, lay them properly, they will stay put and you can walk over them for ever.
      April 16, 2013 9:34 PM BST
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  • It's different here in the US Chalice...
    <p>Traci</p>
      April 16, 2013 4:45 PM BST
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  • Traci Lee O'Gara said:
    Compared to getting a script from a doctor and filling it at a local pharmacy, InHouse is VERY expensive...maybe 6-10 times as much...just depends on your local source. xoxo

    Well Traci, this is simply not true, at least it is not the case in Australia.

     

    The cost of buying 'Progynon Depot" from InHouse Pharmacy is comparable to the prices paid for it on a prescription. Needles, syringes, and alcohol swabs are around 50cents each, not much more.

     

    InHouse Pharmacy provides a considerable cost saving because it allows me to bypass visits to a GP.

    Each visit costs $70.

    The first visit or consultation to obtain a script has no benefit to transitioning. Then a weekly visit to have the medications administered would follow and then continue for the duration of my transition.

    I am certainly not paying $70 a week for my GP and another $200 each time I visit my endocrinologist.

    The money I save can pay for my 'orchie'. lol 

     

    Anyone who would advise that using InHouse Pharmacy is more expensive than getting a script from a doctor is not talking from experience.

     

    Regards

    CB   

     

      April 16, 2013 11:36 AM BST
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  • Joanne Lee said:
    Chalice Syringes can be bought from chemists in Oz.

    Hi Joanne

     

    Yes, I now know I can get alcohol swabs, guage 23 and 21 needles, and 5ml syringes at my family chemist for a fraction of what they cost online.

    I currently get my meds online because it will save me thousands in the long run.

    I have my endo oversee my DIY administration and he arranges the blood work.

     

    All in all, a happy customer.

     

    Chalice     

     

      April 10, 2013 9:16 AM BST
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  • to sort of stay with the thread. I have used inhouse and I find there service and products to be top notch. I am very grateful for their existence.
      April 9, 2013 9:36 PM BST
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  • Hi Lucy,

    I think you might be wrong, but then I am not a lawyer and have never studied law, but the Section 7 specifically states (my emphasis):

    "Subject to regulation 11, no person shall issue an advertisement which is likely to lead to the use of a relevant medicinal product which is a medicinal product for supply by prescription only and which is subject to any of the restrictions imposed by section 58(2) of the Act."

    Regulation 11 is to do with advertising campaigns for vaccinations against diseases.

    It is how the law would interpret an advert on this site, is it the Gender Society who is issuing the advert, or In House Pharmacy??  I think Cristine might have a better idea about this than either of us, or if she doesn't know, she will know somebody who can give her more informed advice.

    Carol

      February 23, 2013 12:50 PM GMT
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  • OK you guys are talking UK! This is the USA forum & this was directed to the US & technaly speaking if your in the us even though they delever here np your violaitng the federal U.S.F.D.A laws established for the safety of products.
      February 23, 2013 12:26 AM GMT
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  • I just want to respond briefly...
    To Carol's point:
    This isn't a problem for Katie because she isn't advertising specific products here; Regulation 7 of the UK Medicines (Advertising) Regulations 1994 is not concerned with links to other websites, it refers directly to advertisers of specific medicines. Katie doesn't advertise medicines here.
    To Samantha's point:
    Inhouse are very careful not to break any laws; ie they only ship to countries where it is legal for then to do so. I am not aware of any of their hormone products, for example, which are not FDA approved.
    As far as I recall, Inhouse do not ship to Canada, amongst other countries, because it would be illegal for them to do so.
    In short, if they ship to your country it is entirely legal for them to do so, as it is for you to buy from them. If they were breaking any country specific laws, or they were causing any individual to break their country's own laws by buying from them, they would be taken to court and closed down.
    Buy in confidence from Inhouse; they are a reputable and law-abiding company.
    xx
    <p><span style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino; font-size: medium; color: #000080;">"Stop aspiring to be other people and start being you."</span></p> <p>Gok Wan</p>
      February 22, 2013 10:55 PM GMT
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  • Chalice

    Syringes can be bought from chemists in Oz.
    <p>ooxxoo</p>
      February 22, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
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  • Chalice Brendale said:

    Hi

     

    Recent comments appear contradictory, but the site displays a clear message.

    To satisfy the requirements of Regulation 7 of the UK Medicines (Advertising) Regulations 1994, this site is not intended for those people who reside in the United Kingdom.
    Meds arrive in Australia without complications, although they never sent any syringes with my last order of injectibles. lol
     
    Regards
    Chalice  

     

    <p>ooxxoo</p>
      February 22, 2013 9:57 PM GMT
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  • This is the link to the US Food & drug administration web site which clearly states

    Quick Tips for Buying Online
    Make sure the site requires a prescription and has a pharmacist available for questions.
    Buy only from licensed pharmacies located in the United States. The National Association of Boards of Pharmacy has more information about licensing and its program to certify online pharmacies.
    Don't provide personal information such as credit card numbers unless you are sure the site will protect them.

    13. Is it illegal for a foreign pharmacy to ship prescription medicines into the U.S.?

    It is illegal for anyone, including a foreign pharmacy, to ship prescription drugs that are not approved by FDA into the U.S. even though the drug may be legal to sell in that pharmacy's country. Under the scheme that Congress established to ensure that drugs are safe and effective, drugs are tested and test results are thoroughly reviewed by FDA scientists. U.S. law also requires that products approved for sale in the United States have their formulation approved by FDA, be made in a plant registered with FDA, and be produced under quality standards enforced by FDA.

    Prescription drugs available from a foreign pharmacy that are products that FDA has not approved; products with similar, but not identical formulations as FDA-approved products; products not made under the quality standards required by U.S. law or labeled according to U.S. requirements; or products not stored or distributed under the quality conditions required in the U.S. cannot be legally sold in the U.S.

    here is the regulation
      February 22, 2013 9:16 PM GMT
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