October 8, 2013 6:28 PM BST
Great stuff ladies,
I ran across a very interesting article called "Primer Fields" that maybe of interest to both of you. I know that both of you are into this far more than I, but I do have a keen interest into particle physics, and astronomy only in the book reading area which just gives me a little idea into what is going on, I also have a 4" equatorial refractor telescope, F=1200mm, D=80mm, sorry I have no camera set up.
But I watched these two video's pt 1 and 2 presented by this man whom does a very intellectual and common sense approach with experments using electrical plasma and electrical magnatism strong force in a vacumn chamber, to describe the cosmos and the various galaxy formations, nebula, and sun magnetic reversal process and even the polar aura at the top of Saturn. Pt 2 goes into things much deeper, I have found this quite fascinating.
Now I was wondering if either of you know of this or have seen this experment and your thoughts since I believe you two are much more studied on this subject. Could this be a posible explanation. Here is a quote from one of the viewers, "Blows string apart blows dark matter apart. and at the center of galexies is a ball of plasma confined between magnetic fields"
Tammy...sorry if spelling is wrong, I cannot get my spell check to work on here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw3A6yf-fFA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYae9Zyeotg
October 8, 2013 7:20 PM BST
Hello Tammy - thanks for the input and ideas. i have not heard of Primer Fields, but did a little researh into the idea - seems as though there is a person who finds turbulance in electromagnetic fields and this can create possible sources of 'free energy'. From your writing on the connection of electromagnetic fields and galaxy formation, effects in nebulae, stars, and the Sun - there can be some electromagnetic effects but I do not know of the claims made on the video so I will wait til I see the extent of the claims. Clearly there are electromagnetic effects, all reasonably described by Maxwell's equations and a helped by a few rules of thermodynamics and i have also read the four equations for stellar formation and balance. Each of these when called upon has a reasonable answer to the present understanding of things as they are. I came across an extensive blog where a person notes a few imporant ideas : 1) there is no peer reviewed publication of these so-called experiments 2) there is no math to it at all - never published, noted or written about in any capacity - here is that link : http://www.thescienceforum.com/new-hypotheses-ideas/34979-primer-fields.html 3) It does violate the laws of thermodynamics - having a net positive energy, which cannot happen 4) if Dave ( the person who created this situation ) did indeed create a tabletop fusion reactor, this would be global and would have a swarm of scientists and investors in a heartbeat - and please no conspiracy theories of why there are none at present - one would only need watch the video, look to the crude drawings and with some effort be able to replicate it and viola, I have a new power source for my home and I will put one in my car and hell - no more energy bills forever! - doubtful, but a wonderful idea. -- I do acknowledge that the em force is many orders of magnitude greater than gravity and essential in creating a fusion reactor one day, however.
Still - I love the addition of ideas, Tammy - and I do admit I am not only a conventional relativist and strict particle theory enthusiast - I think that there might be some ideas in string theory in the long run - and when it come to both dark matter and dark energy - all of the current evidence points to their existance, and there are plausible models in thee works out there, but still no tanglible candidates. I have even sent an email to Brian Cox on the matter of dark matter on how to measure it - stil no word back from him, but the idea does have some measure since my hypothesis creates a measurable means to test ideas and open doors to eliminating some of the prospects while embracing others.
As always the full measure of answers is out there and we are only at the dawn of the true age of the cosmos,
thanks for the input Tammy : )
October 9, 2013 3:56 AM BST
Thanks Briana,
A friend of mine sent me this info and after reading all the posts in this great thread, I thought if anyone would know it would be you to lay out all the facts that I would or shall I say most would miss.
Please keep up with the really cool threads.
I do have some questions for a later time about this dark energy and matter, I did some reading in the book called The Shape of Inner Space by Shing-Tung Yau and Steve Nadis where they wrote about vacuum energy and quantum tunneling, have you heard about this and could you direct me to an article that I can rap my brain around a little easier. I guess I am asking the question now LOL.
Thanks Tammy
October 9, 2013 9:15 PM BST
Hey Tammy - I have limited experience with quantum mechanics - mostly descriptive and conceptual - but I have heard of both vacuum energy and quantum tunneling. In the matter of the vacuum energy it is now seen that a perfect vacuum as described in quantum mechanics does not have a zero energy content and pairs of particles and antiparticles pop into and out of existence - and are essentially bundles of energy - this has been verified as far as I know. It also extends to the Big Bang and helps to create a basis for it occuring. In the matter of quantum tunneling I have greater experience and have seen on various shows and have read several book accounts of it occuring. Also I have read in a couple of accounts of the Sun's energy production it is a necessity to occur for fusion to even take place. I have several Brian Greene books - none on the topics alone but incorporated into the narrative - which are good - such as The Hidden Reality, another is The Elegant Universe, and the Fabri of the Cosmos. His PBS series of the Elegant Universe is good as well.
As to the work you note - I have not read it but it look terrific and well worth it - they seem to be tying these quantum ideas to the recent work in string theory and are applying it to the description of 6 of the dimensions - this is one of several key theories as to where and what these other dimensions are. It will be fascinating in the decades to come to see where these ideas go. I saw on another show where a person is proposing dark matter being in one of these sort of folds.
Thanks
Briana : )
October 24, 2013 11:18 PM BST
Hello - here is a link to watch the sun with a 200,000 mi rupture occurring :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qurh_BZ-O2E#t=79
February 20, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
Hello Astro Girls - Guess what - Cosmos is returning to TV! Niels deGrasse Tyson ( sorry for misspelling - just guessing at it presently ) will redo in a modern context the series Cosmos! it will of course feature many of the new ideas abuzz in Astronomy such as : the Higgs boson, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, String theory, and the Accelerating Universe and so on. I just adored Cosmos in my younger days - ran out and bought the book when it was airing - week by week and reading each chapter ahead of that show when it came on. Since then I have bought the DVD set of it and have seen it several times over the years.
February 20, 2014 11:32 PM GMT
Hello Girls - How many of you have meteorite pieces? I have a few small ones - the largest about half the size of my thumb and one other a little larger. I even have a necklace piece which I just love : )
February 21, 2014 11:00 PM GMT
I too was inspired by the original Cosmos with Carl Sagan and I have the DVD box set at home. For those who haven't seen it, whole episodes are available on youtube to watch and enjoy. The music by Vangelis fitted the series very well. I just hope that the new version is able to inspire a generation just like the original did.
March 25, 2014 12:53 AM GMT
Hello Astro Girls - Wow - how about that new Cosmos - it is a great homage to the Sagan Cosmos of long ago. Well crafted tales of solid science, great reasoning, and that feeling of invitation to undertake this journey. I love the use of Newton and Halley in Tyson's version whereas Sagan employed Kepler - both are excellent choices - to be the people at the crossroads of history where the universe has discernable, measureable patterns that can be conveyed in mathematical language and can not only describe what it, but predict what should be in other unconvered situations! I used these same tales many a time when I was teaching in my classes - I would even bring a copy of the Principia and tell the tale of the coffee house meeting of Halley, Wren, and Hooke that lead to Newton's involvement. Ever a joy and I hope there are a new young generation of budding mathematicians, scientists, and the like who are venturing into the Cosmos for the first time! : )
March 26, 2014 1:17 PM GMT
Hello Astro Girls : here is a really cool link to a nearly half hour tour of the space station with Sunny Williams : she floats us around the whole of the system and what goes on - quite cool - definitely would love a trip there !
http://www.youtube.com/embed/doN4t5NKW-k
March 31, 2014 2:15 PM BST
Seen the first 3 episodes of the new Cosmos - nice show, but a bit light on the real science so far I think.
April 15, 2014 2:04 PM BST
Hello Astro Girls - Eclipses are always a pleasure and a treasure - the first of the Tetrad this April 14/15 with this full lunar eclipse. I can remember several eclipses growing up - either the lunar or solar variety. I even took a day off of school just to stay home to witness it - parents didn't mind.
June 10, 2014 9:19 PM BST
No dark skies around here, but dabble a bit in astro imaging just for fun - prefer deep sky astronomy
June 10, 2014 9:37 PM BST
Hello DQ Becky - Great to meet you here in the Astro corner of the universe. I love the deep sky objects as well - - I have never taken photos of anything like that but enjoy deeply and dearly the images found in various magazines as well as online - especially Hubble images - just awesome!! - What do you use for images? What you shared is terrific - thanks.
June 10, 2014 9:57 PM BST
that one was taken with an 8 inch Meade LX200GPS, which is a schmidt-cassegrain - just Alt-Az mount so have to keep exposure times down to about 45 seconds. The imager is the Meade DSI Pro II, which is a beginners deep sky imager really,...but the learning curve is steep and its a really nice simple camera to use and get reasonable results.
Also got a beautiful 4 inch refractor - William Optics ZS110... This is dumbell taken with that
June 10, 2014 11:08 PM BST
Thanks for the post DQ - definitely a girl after my own heart - I have an 8" Meade shmidt-cassegrain as well - this imaging is yet another frontier for me to explore. - Love the post of the pics - thanks again. : )
June 16, 2014 11:12 PM BST
Hey Astro girls - here is a link to the deep sky hubble pics - I know it is a little dated, but still quite worth the look - many deep thoughts on this :
http://all-that-is-interesting.com/important-image-captured-by-hubble
enjoy, hugs, Briana : )
August 25, 2014 11:05 PM BST
Hi girls. I can't quite believe this is the first time I have come across this already long running thread. Thank goodness we now have notifcations of new posts.
I'm a total beginner but I have a Skywatcher 200P (8" Newtonian) on an EQ5 mount. Due to the inclement Cumbrian weather I don't get out very often, but so far I've seen Jupiter and its Galilean moons, Mars and Saturn. Have identified a few clusters but yet to pinpoint any galaxies (tips welcome).
I don't have any photographic equipment, but here's a pic of the moon taken literally with my mobile phone pointed at the eyepiece. Doesn't do justice to the crsip, dazzling image you can actually see.
Bernadette, I am truly impressed with your photos, fabulous. And Briana, I'm humbled by your knowledge and qualifications.
Keep up the good work, girls!
xx
This post was edited by Lucy Diamond at August 25, 2014 11:11 PM BST
August 25, 2014 11:15 PM BST
Hello Lucy - Great to have a new member of the group - love the sky searches as well. I am with you on inclement weather - there is a unfortunate but reasonable frequency of evening clouds that can take the stars out of the sky - particularly in spring and fall. Winter tends to be good, but cold can be the trouble, of course.
I'm no expert on advice but the best I have ever done on galaxies is these ideas : 1) really only try on quite good seeing nights, if it isn't then it is quite time consuming and nonproductive, 2) best to use moderate power - I have an 8" as well and would use a 15 mm eyepiece - too high of a power is too narrow of a window on the sky 3) Have really good sky maps - I would invest in a book - this is because the best method I have found for galaxies is star hopping - find one you know ( be sure to have your scope set for RA and dec and then using the map hop from one known star to the next in order to be where you need to be for the galaxy. - Then slowly scan the sky, letting your eyes adjust - galaxies are quite small, hazy 4) Best to start with a well known one, like Andromeda, it is fairly easy. -
Thanks for sharing - I love the planet adventures too - some nights it's just me and the Moon. : )
August 25, 2014 11:16 PM BST
Try again with that moon pic (click to enlarge)
This post was edited by Lucy Diamond at August 25, 2014 11:53 PM BST
August 25, 2014 11:39 PM BST
Hello Astro Girls - This attempted photo post is from Astronomy Picture of the Day ( a very recommended site ) and is a test to post photos - thanks
This post was edited by Briana Purcell at August 25, 2014 11:52 PM BST
August 25, 2014 11:52 PM BST
Love your Saturn photo, Bernadette. Did you use some stacking software for that?