Hillary to "aid" Republican win !!

    • 315 posts
    May 18, 2008 3:39 PM BST

    Hi Girls,

    Being Sunday, when I'm off work, I enjoy "getting into" the Sunday papers, catching up on the stories and comments I may have missed over the previous week.

    So, I came across this Leader in one of the "Sundays" today, and thought it would be interesting to hear your comments about it.

    Basically it says that Hillary Clinton is so desperate now, that she could be planning what the Leader writer describes as a "scorched earth" strategy.
    Senior Democrats aparently feel that, despite having no realistic chance of bearing Obama to the nomination, she will refuse to drop out. Thus the final choice will be left until the Convention in August.
    This would lead to huge divisions within the Party, with the likely result that, although Obama would win the nomination, he would lose the Presidential Election to John McCain.
    This would leave Obama looking a spent force, and pave the way for Hillary Clinton to have another shot in 2012.
    McCain would, by then be 75 years old, and considered too elderly to lead the Nation.
    With Hillary never having lost an Election, she would be perfectly poised to lead the Democrats. Senior Party officials have called the plan the "nuclear option".
    With Super Delegates pledging their support for Obama on an almost daily basis, clinton knows she has no chance of overtaking his tally.

    "There is nothing left for Hillary but the "nuclear option", said a senior Democrat. "If she decides to fight all the way to the Convention, it will create a huge division within the party. The arguing will only serve to help one person ...... John McCain".

    There is now also talk that Edwards will be Obama's running mate as Vice-President.
    "The first class dream ticket was Obama and Clinton, but she now has a less than zero chance of being chosen by Obama, following some of her comments about him".

    Party insiders say that, even if he wanted Hillary by his side, his wife Michelle, would object, as she has little time for Clinton, and doesn't want her husband to have anything to do with her.


    So, that's what one of the top Leader Writers on this side of "the Pond" is saying. I tend to agree with the comments.

    What's your thoughts on it ?


    Hugs,
    Angela. xxx.
    • 1195 posts
    May 18, 2008 4:15 PM BST
    Angela - I'll leave the speculation to others but (in my humble opinion)the Democratic party will probably wait 'til the convention to decide on the candidate. My reasoning is that while numbers favor Obama, Clinton has the "deciding" states on her side. In case you've never hear Will Rogers' statement (very old) "I don't belong to an organized political party, I'm a Democrat."
    • 448 posts
    May 18, 2008 10:34 PM BST
    The nuclear option doesn't belong to Hillary Cinton, it lies in the hands of the Democratic Party. If they make the just decision and choose Obama ( most votes, most delegates ) then the likelihood is they will lose an election it didn't seem possible to lose just a few months ago. He cannot secure the white working class vote and, therefore, the big states required to win. Hillary can and I think she would, divisive though she is, beat McCain. She is certainly securing her future. She can say in four years time, with some justification, I told you so. And why shouldn't she. Obama has ridden a wave of novelty that has long since run dry. The spotlight is now firmly on him. Of course a lot can happen in an election. He is young, energetic and has passion. That may serve him well when confronting the aged McCain. If political cynicism still thrives then the Superdelegates will choose Hillary. If not I fear the world will have to endure four more years, at least, of Republican Government and a militaristic American foreign policy.
    • 773 posts
    May 19, 2008 8:07 PM BST
    McCain is finished regardless of which Democrat wins the nomination. No one wants to remain in the quagmire in Iraq, throwing our good money after bad, and continuing to shed American blood for no apparent reason. McCain has repeatedly stated that his policy would keep us there indefinitely, in his own words "50 or 100 years if that's what it takes."

    There will be a Democratic win without a doubt. McCain is not a factor. This election is between Obama and Clinton at this point.
    • 1912 posts
    May 19, 2008 10:29 PM BST
    Don't get your hopes up Robyn. Basically one way or another none of the candidates will get us out of Iraq soon. Common sense and reality will dictate that one.

    In my opinion Obama hasn't a chance. You can get all excited about the turnout in Oregon, but they already have a socialist party there so it is no wonder there was a huge turnout for him. I don't mean to be racist in any way but americans will not vote for him. He would be the next George McGovern. I'm sure you remember him and quite likely liked him.

    McCain may as will be a democrat as far as most republicans are concerned so it becomes who is the lesser of two evils between him and Hilliary.

    My opinion of course, anyone want to make a wager, lol. No way would I ever consider voting for Obama. Besides, he keeps saying we need change but never offers any real idea what he would change. I think George McGovern was like that and also planned on surrendering and pulling out of Vietnam. Lots of similarities.

    I think with the options in this presidential election, the American people are the losers.

    Hugs,
    Marsha