There seems to be some people on here with a memory problem as they write one thing then contradict themselves maybe they should take a look back on there threads and remind themselves of what they said .

I will be the first to admit i made a realy big mistake sometime ago and i will never forget that as i still feel ashamed of my mistake .

So whats the point in this then? well we all make mistakes but i think some just lie , actualy i don,t think it i know it and if they think knowone notices then they are wrong because if i do i am sure others must do to .

I also read an artical on here which was supposed to be true i then read a forum thread by the same person contradicting the artical so i checked the dates just to see if the artical was written before the thread and it was so that artical in my eyes is not fact as stated or the forum thread is not fact .

To be honest i realy don,t care why some people choose to lie about there lives but you realy do make yourselves look a bit stupid .

So just be honest or continue untill everyone notices .
Julia .

Could you be more specific Julia?

Hi Janis yes i could be more specific but i think the lack of response to this has got a few people thinking which is the general idea of me posting this , they know who they are and they proberbly know if they respond they are going to blow it .

All the best Julia x.

Hi. I've not used this site for a while, but I've found the time to return and still feel that it's a beneficial place to visit. It's a shame then, that familiar gripes and personal digs still abound - they get a bit wearisome after a while. Human nature being as it is, I suppose this means we are just a typical cross-section of society after all? But can't we be inquisitive, curious, conversational, caring, questioning, humouring and lots of other 'ings' whilst being NICE to each other as well?

Wait a minute!! Suporn has an LA clinic? Son of a bitch!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL that's a good one christine!! (^5)

Z

Yeah. Sorry about that. Sometimes I'm not exactly appropriate. I'm working on it. Kinda.

Z

Surely a "tone deaf Madonna wannabe" has achieved her ambition?

I realy am not enjoying this and thank you all for your responses but its a shame the people i am talking about are keeping quiet as they normaly jump on me straight away but maybe they are still busy looking back on there mistakes , ok some may live in a dream world and find it hard to just even walk out of there doors as the person they wish to be or are , in my case it was do or die but if anyone is going to write something and call it fact when it is fiction then that is deception , it does not matter realy it just makes them look fools when they slip up a few weeks later .

Life is to short for this so from now on i will keep quiet and out of the forums .

All of you take care Julia xx.

I actually sense that she is talking about me which doesn't really bother me. Personally I am open minded and actually at times change my views even if at times it seems I am stubborn and unmovable. I've also been guilty of choosing my words wrong which doesn't help others in understanding the points I may be trying to make. But I'm guessing Julia is referring to me because of what I said in one of threads about Nathan where I told her she was being disrespectful. After her anti U.S. rant I told her how she was wrong about getting whatever medicine we wanted without a prescription at the corner store. She had used the words "to be honest as I always am" in the post leading to that comment. I also have posted a number of links lately. So if it was me, I would be curious to know where I maybe contradicted myself so I could have the opportunity to clarify things. Or if not me, whomever it is Julia is accusing of lying. I think the way she has set this up is extremely rude and it is nice to see other gals pointing out the same thing.
Hugs,
Marsha

p.s., Sorry it took me so long to respond, I had actually typed this response in around 6p.m. my time last night and the power went out and did not come up until a little after 7 this morning. It was probably a good thing because I had some grammatical errors, probably still do, lol. Oh Julia, if you think I'm lying about that please call Georgia Power at 800-437-3890 and ask if there were any power outages in southside Savannah last night.

Marsha .
This is not about you , i know sometimes we don,t see eye to eye but i have never read an artical you have written if you have written one .

I am going to make one more post in the forums this week as i think it may help a few people . I allowed my local newspaper to do a full page feature on me last year in the hope that if it prevented just one person going through what i have then my life has had a purpose , and before anyone starts thinking i am an attention seeker then put that out of your heads , believe me i get to much attention everyday of my life , and i definatly don,t want sympathy either i am happy with my life .

After i have posted the thread i will watch for a few days then i shall say some goodbyes before logging out of here for good .

I will say just one last thing in this thread (and i mean last) , it was never my intention to reveal the persons name this is about , i was just pointing out "a fact" as i don,t live in a fictional world i maybe uneducated but i am not stupid unlike the person who wrote the artical.

All the best to all Julia x.

Hugs Julie, I'm not sure if I should be relieved to know it is not about me or not. I'm just not sure your approach to bring it out was the best. I don't mean to make it a personal thing between us because prior to the recent confrontation I believe we got along rather well. Like you, honesty is very important to me and I hope others will see how honesty truly makes your life so much easier. Whatever you do with yourself in the future I wish you the best.
Hugs,
Marsha

Hiya, I hope its about me, you see, my whisky diet is working a treat, I've lost 3 days already! and if it involves some other matter then it wasnt my fault, someone forced me to have a short memory! lol xxx

Julie, the thing I understand about forums is that all too often its a combination of people not explaining themselves properly along with people misinterpreting and finding huge offence that was not intended. I always air on the side, "I'm sure they didnt mean that" and I try to see a more pleasant interpretation.

Much Love
Penny x

Cristine,
what you said, re. catch 22., - was a truly compassionate, understanding, beautiful thing to say. Hugs to you!
At some times, we all forget how lucky we really are.

Janis,
"Surely a "tone deaf Madonna wannabe" has achieved her ambition? "
LOVED IT!!!!

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"and my needs entwined, like ribbons of light...and I came through the doorway, some where... in the night"

Honeys, the only thing short on me is my memory. Being Amazonian in stature for a woman is not fun, sometimes.

I'm going to be blunt here: Times change. Opinions change. And sometimes, as we sit and consider the whole of our lives, we find that things we might not have thought through adequately a few years ago and thought to be true (or false) might very well be the opposite. Things I might well not have thought through (or thought through well!) a few years back may well be different today. I know when I finally came to grips with who Mina was--and who she wasn't--there were some things I would love to have gone back and edited.

I haven't done so...not even on my website. What I have written/said, I have to live with. That is called life. (Wellllll...okay. I have fixed a few grammatical and spelling issues, but only because I'm a bit anal about that kind of stuff.)

In some cases, there might well be some truth issues. (I'll get to that in a moment.) In others, growth. By being here, at this place online, by living our lives, I'd like to think we are growing as women. I know I have. As I sit here and write this, I'm in a modest dress, hose, full makeup, jewelry, bra and panties. And if you have Facebook and are on my friends list, you can look at my picture and laugh...just be glad I took my glasses off.

6 or 8 years ago, looking and dressing like this was a treat. Now, I look like this pretty much daily. What changed?

I did.

I "grew up", so to speak.

"When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways." (1 Cor 13:11, NRSV) To me, that sums up a portion of the argument. (Not the whole...I'm getting to that.)

Perhaps that is what happens to us on occasion. Sure, there are some people who look better, live fabulously, and have a bazillion friends online...and the sad truth is that it's all made up. Yes, I know I have an Asian name, and am no more Asian than the Chinese place run by Hispanics is. That has been my choice to make, however. Some of you long timers here might remember when I was Jayne Sakura. The person changed and grew, and the name change was a realization of that growth. But, I am still who I am. Just older, wiser...maybe not as big a flirt as I used to be, but I'm still a big flirt. (Some things haven't changed. )

The icon pic of me is really me, no airbrushing. I work for a living, and most of the time I can do it looking like the pic in question because I work from home and so nobody cares what I look like, until I step out to go to lunch or get the mail. Then I'd better nail it right, every time, about my womanhood, my femininity. Real life can't be edited, luvs! I have had to get it right about so many things, from buying makeup publicly to having a bra fitting to hormones. I can't go back and undo things, change my mind about things I've done. Not now. Not ever.

We should be honest about things, here and elsewhere. And as much as possible.

However...

For many people, just being here is a huge step. They get frightened, become afraid. (Rightfully so, these days.) So they'll hide behind a well-crafted story. The why isn't important, so long as they aren't malicious about things. I've been around long enough to see those folks eithergrow up and get things straightened out,go away on their own, orbe removed for being a ninny.

All stuff to consider, my dears.

Luv 'n hugs,

Mina

Hi Julia,


Thanks for keeping us honest. I too sometimes have a memory lapse (dang age + the 1970's catching up with me).

I for one went back and checked my blog posts and updated them with dates, so as to be accurate in conveying what is going on in my life. (Not tha anyone cares). Your are correct, it is important to be accurate and not mislead, nor misrepresent. Many of the sisters here do take the posts into consideration as they navigate what is going on in their lives. KInd of like a girls lunch outing to share. I hope you have a great week.

Hugz,

MichelleLynn

FFS who realy cares, theres more to life than waste time speculating and trying to expose people for whatever reason they have to come to places like this and seek solence and contact.

Cassandra

It is well known that many users of the internet are, as a well-known politician once described the phenomena, "Economical with the truth".

Some made contact with me earlier this week and their profile said they are of 31, of Asian appearance, dark eyes and from London.
Their picture shows a blue-eyed blonde aged about 20. And it turns out they are in Ghana!

It happens on this site as well - some friends have told me about people who do not match their description, and certainly come in to the 'Item not as described' category.

Therefore I do not find it at all surprising that sometimes people 'forget' what they have said to someone else and when the story is repeated to another it varies, or posted an article in one place and contradicted it in another.

Lies and liars will be caught out, but the one thing I won't do is let it get to me. If it serious, I will contact the person concerned personally and advise them of the 'mistake'. After that, it is up to them.

But some of us actually DO have a bad memory!

@ Julia

You are making an assumption that the person concerned has:-

a) Been on the site since your post was made,
b) Has read it., and
c) Is aware that you are referring to them.

If it is bothering you so much I suggested above that instead of vague and anonymous accusations you contact them directly and ask for an explanation of their apparently contradictory views.

Alternatively, advise everyone of exactly what your problem is, so we can mediate.

Hi Julia,

I guessed (with no particular reason other than you clashed with her recently) you were referring to Marsha. While I don't always agree with her, I've never found her to be inconsistent in her posts (more's the pity sometimes.)

That said, I have absolutely no idea who you are aiming this thread at, and I'd guess neither does she or anyone else. Kind of pointless, don't you think?

I'd suggest you go back and read Sue James' post in this thread. Some real common sense there.

This is the second time you've accused another member of duplicity. The first time was against one of the most popular girls here, you only looked bad. This time you are doing it to an unnamed member which makes you look even worse.

You again say you are going to leave for good. That's even dumber than the attack posts. Nobody wants to see you leave.

Your post to Nathan was brave and gave the more cowardly of us (read: me) the courage to express our views/opinions to her. This is indeed an important thing.

I won't try to convince you to stay if you feel it's not right for you, but I think it would be as ill conceived as your attacks on other members.

Wishing you the best either way,
Melody

Hi Minako,

What can I say but, what a great post!

You Go, Girl!

Best,
Melody

ps, you mean Juan Nava at the local Taco/Sushi place isn't Asian? I'm shocked, shocked...

Christine has it. TGS is not here to make everyone into something specific. It is to support everyone into having the courage to live in a way that makes them happy, without guilt imposed on us by society. We need another point of view to help us realize ourselves and go there, taking into consideration ALL the factors in our life. We need to make choices like we do about everything else....not because of what someone else wants, CG or TG.