April 22, 2005 5:02 PM BST
Mere,
Totally agree with you on the sexuality of dressing thing. I don't dress to get turned on sexually. I used to dress because of a MUCH stronger urge than sex. If my sexual urges had been as strong as my urges to "crossdress", I would damn near have been a rapist. I risked damage to my life that was horrendous to contemplate. Being found out might well have resulted in suicide or leaving my home and family. I have never wanted sex THAT badly. The fact that I may have had sexual feelings while dressed is a secondary effect...who knows what is associated or crosswireed in my brain.
Now, I do get that slow, erotic build-up while getting "ready" when I'm dressing in "party" clothes, and that can take hours. I'm staring into a mirror, making up my face and picking clothes and jewelry and trying my best to make myself look "enticing". That arousal, however, is still not WHY I do it, in fact less so, but it happens as a secondary effect. I don't drink milk from a glass to get a white moustache, but I do get one. A major clue to me is that I used to undress immediatly if I had an orgasm while crossdressed. If I have one now, while dressed...I do not undress...(in fact I'm usually lying around in a "glow"). That is not only not the point of dressing, but the guilt/fear thing isn't operational. I watched it fade away over the last year when there were only three time-periods in which I got to dress. But it is very much the "making yourself attractive to a potential mate" effect and may well be hardwired. The real point here is that there is more than one thing going on here. The brain is complex and intra-active. I keep pointing out they have found over 50 genetic markers in mice for sexuality. For some people, crossdressing for sex is an end to itself. Good for them! Enjoy. For others it is more. For some it is not sexual at all...just as dressing en homme is not sexual for me. There are very complex brain functions operating here. It would be unreasonable to suppose only one factor was operational, and that it would be the same for every person.
Lucy,
Your point is well made. If a man can feel like he is putting on his armor to fight/hunt when he dresses (In a three-piece banker's suit, for example), why can't a woman feel appropriate responses as she makes herself desirable. This is not political correctness, it is evolutionary biology. A woman's "job" in evolutionary biology is to find and attract a mate, get pregnant, keep the mate close for security and food, give birth, raise the child until it is old enough to breed the next generation. Sex is fun because people for whom sex felt good, bred more and won the genetic lottery with their offspring. So why should there not be a similar stimuli to reward effective breeding behavior in females. They did it, they attracted males, bred and won the gentic lottery. Natural selection favors horny and sexually fulfilled parents. Men get horny every time they look at a woman because their "job" is to get as many women pregnant with THEIR offspring as possible...because the ones who were horny, did. It's as simple as why trails go around hills instead of over them. It works best.
Fetishism is generally associated with specific objects to obtain sexual arousal (shoe, stocking), it does not involve crossdressing which, as Lucy correctly pointed out, is termed transvestic fetishism. Both, however are done FOR THE PURPOSE of sexual arousal and usually are REQUIRED for the person to be sexually aroused. I can't remember once in my live thinking: "Oh, I'll get dressed in women's clothes so I can be sexually aroused" as I would think "Oh, I'll open up this PLAYBOY magazine to get sexually aroused." Not once. It was more a case of "I want to wear those clothes; I really want to wear those clothes...I'm willing to risk destroying my life to wear those clothes." For sexual arousal? Give me a break. I still contend I was a sensual/sexual person as a "male" and I still am. Why should that change? I had one of the most intense, sexual, female experiences of my life alone in a hot tub without a stitch of clothing on without touching myself anywhere that would normally be considered a sexual part of me. Was that "Atransvestic" fetishism? A hot tub fetish? I don't think so. I believe the clothing acts as a sort of "catalyst" to take me into the female part of my brain, and the loss of "urge" to "crossdress" occured when the catalyst was no longer necessary, the threshold diminished and I could make the crossover on my own.
April 23, 2005 2:24 PM BST
My 2 cents.
I was putting on dresses before I realy knew what sex was. As I got older my fantasy was to be with girls when dressed. But I didn't have to dress to have the fantasy. I did not fantasize just because I was dressed. Except to fantasize about being a girl. Sex is more satifying when I'm dressed to start with. I only had one girlfriend that I could do that. Which is why I stayed with her for so long in a very bad relationship.
I hope that came out right?