why do i feel i need to dress as the accepted look of a women

  • February 28, 2013 1:36 PM GMT

    i do ask myself why i need to dress as a lady even tho i just want to become a women physicaly.

    maybe social indoctrination has a part to play, maybe i feel even if i change all of my body with i wear male clothes i still wont feel trully a women, because iv been led to believe by society that women must dress and look a certain way.

    makes me wonder if the system of identification is wrong because i have a few female friends that see themselves as they call it "tom boys"  i hate that phrase btw and they dress like i do atm and have short hair etc. they don't consider themselves like me trapped in the wrong body or anything, they live as a women they just choose to look differently to the expected look of a women in uk society.

    i was reading a post earlier that was on about someone that got told they wernt transgendered because they didnt wear skirts etc. where in society does it say you have to wear a dress or a skirt when your a women? my sister doesnt even own them types of clothes anymore trust me i know.XD she wears more of a jeans and rock tops with a devil or something exotic on them and doesnt touch makeup etc.

    i was wondering what everyones thoughts are on this.

    PS my Grammar is BAD tehe XD

  • March 4, 2013 7:04 PM GMT
    Society has changed over the years Lola, and many psychiatrists may be a little 'old fashioned' in their views. However, even in the 70's when I was 'running the gauntlet' with GI clinics I would go and see my psychiatrist is whatever I fancied wearing for the day - and if that meant jeans or slacks, then that is how I dressed.
    However, he knew that I was working as a female so maybe that held greater sway than what I came dressed in.
    Maybe with today's unemployment rates and the difficulties many trans people have in finding jobs, it is more important to present as non androgynous - so that they can see you are presenting as female in everyday life and are not hiding away from being female.
    This is all supposition on my part though - maybe the best person to ask is your psychiatrist and discuss this with him.

    Carol xx
  • March 4, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
    Thank you carol
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    March 5, 2013 11:49 AM GMT

    Hi Lola'May.

     

    There seems to be 'prescribed dress' for those requiring SRS. This, of course, is a strong objection of mine and an adopted pet issue. I've seen several candidates for SRS flouncing around like Marie Antionette and I have to say IMO it just sets back gender issues many decades. Not to mention how riduculous they look; they really are an embarrassment.

     

    There are alternatives of course. I saw a transsexual person being interviewed in the audience on a late night televison show who wore a singlet and had short hair. She didn't pretend to be a woman, she was simply transsexual. This is, I think, is a very important distinction. 

     

    Personally, I know I will never call myself a woman even though I first firmly believed I was not completely male around 13 or 14, had a strong desire to be a girl, have had niggling doubts ever since and still continuously act out my female identity.

     

    To me, a woman's style of dress is arbitrary. It has a massive range from ultra feminine to uber masculine. I don't see why Transsexuals like myself cannot have an intermediate style.

     

    Of course, I understand that some transsexuals are going to look cis-female without even trying.

     

    So, here's to a more female body without the oppression of a prescriptive, rigid and stifling dress code.

    In fact, here's to a new sex.

     

    Regards

    Chalice

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    This post was edited by Former Member at March 5, 2013 12:06 PM GMT
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    March 11, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
    Lola,
    I happen to enjoy wearing very feminine clothes and I must admit that I am a bit of a "teaser" at times.
    Many GG's like to do that as well... and many don't.
    My point is... we are free to dress as we like regardless what gender situation we are in.
  • March 12, 2013 9:41 AM GMT
    hiya Doanna so do i

    Chalice's post gives a better idea about the point i was trying to make

    i feel so much more comfy and open (flirty/teasing) in a dress and nice girly shoes

    i was making an over all observation of society and its view on how someone has to look to be something which annoys me

    not all TG girls even born girls feel as comfy as i do in an nice dress and shoes its them i posted about

    when i see a situation i often project my self in that situation in my mind to feel what its like to be there (to get another prospective) sometimes them feelings still project when i write about the situation


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    Lola'May
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    March 12, 2013 12:48 PM GMT
    Today's gender specialist relate more to ''being comfortable'' than probably the untrained shrinks of the past, who were just dipping their toes in the cold water, a lot more is know these days, and the new generation of gender specialists and clinicians are more laid back with modern trends.

    Cristine
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    March 12, 2013 8:09 PM GMT

    I agree with Chalice. However age could have a bearing. I started transitioning late in life l like my female body although I could do with a facelift LOL.


    This post was edited by Joanne Lee at March 12, 2013 9:38 PM GMT
  • March 22, 2013 10:59 PM GMT
    I like wearing feminine clothes, I wear skirts all the time, in fact I never wear pants, jeans are actually difficult you have to tuck since I am still pre-op and I can be comfortable in a skirt. A frilly blouse and be nice. But I almost never wear makeup.