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    • December 6, 2014 12:26 AM GMT
    • An Introduction.

      Hello! My name is Marceline (most people call me "Marcy") Trahan. I am a 15 year old transgirl that lives in Arkansas. I joined this community for... I guess someone to talk to, and help to me through this extremely confusing and frustrating time in my life. This post is not "my story." This post is my request for help.

       

      I've been presenting myself as a woman publicly since about the middle of summer. My mother knew that I liked to crossdress (later followed by me telling her that I wanted to be a woman and her... not taking it well, BUT THAT'S FOR A DIFFERENT POST!) I digress, i've been going to school as a girl since about the start of this school year (again, to my mother's dismay) and i'm quite accepted and liked, fortunately I haven't been bullied much at all by my peers, there was obviously the occasional stupid question, but, you can't blame someone who's never had the opportunity to be informed about something for not being informed about something. Most of the "school friends" that I hang out with have no problem addressing and acknowledging me as a woman. HOWEVER, it seems like the only person who doesn't acknowledge me as a woman is... well, me! that's not to say that I don't think i'm transgender, i've thought about that for a really really long time, what i'm saying is, no matter how pretty I try to make myself look, I always see myself as a guy when I look in the mirror, like, all of my male features are the only ones I notice. Fortunately i'm on blockers, but i'm not allowed to start estrogen until 18. It seems like i'm in this prepertual state of bullying myself in my head. I really want a boyfriend, I want to feel like a normal happy teenage girl but, i'm not. I'm frequently low-energy and depressed, I want to be happier. So, that's why i'm here.

       

      This post was edited by Former Member at December 6, 2014 12:37 AM GMT
    • December 6, 2014 1:17 AM GMT
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      Hello.

       

      15yo, WTF!

       

      You have to forgive the scepticism but there are a couple of logical flaws in your story.

       

      So anyway, whatever your reasons for being here (I have my suspicions), you need to be 18.

       

       

    • December 6, 2014 2:00 AM GMT
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      My apologies, I'll leave if i'm reqested to. I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes, I simply wanted a community that understood what I was going through. but umm... what do you mean by "logical flaws"?

    • December 6, 2014 2:48 AM GMT
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      I think if you said you were 18 when you joined that puts you in a bind legally. 

       

    • December 6, 2014 2:55 AM GMT
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      i don't think i did... but, it's whatever. i'll leave. i'm sorry

    • December 6, 2014 4:18 AM GMT
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      Welcome to GS Marceline. :)

       

      And Chalice......Do you really think what you have said to Marceline, is in the least bit tactful or respectful??

       

      All Marceline is asking for is help and support in a really difficult time in her life. Is it too hard to have a little understanding?

       

      This post was edited by steve fraser at February 17, 2015 8:33 PM GMT
    • December 6, 2014 10:03 PM GMT
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      Steve this is being dealt with. Thanks for your concern.

    • January 31, 2015 2:35 PM GMT
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      First time I have read this,   To say I'm shocked, disgusted, horrified that someone should join so young and recieve such a reception, especially from the person who posted a picture of a young actress claiming it was of themselves.

       

      Yes there is an age limit here of 18, prescribed by law.   But young people are sent a helpful letter, with guidance for sites that specialise in that field, trusted and registered sites.    They are also offered a session with our on line councellor, therapist before being asked to leave.

       

      Yes we do get the odd troll here, pretending to be underage or young people, BUT in all cases new members like this should be treated with respect and offered the help they need,  the thought of them being trolls should take second place.    The emphasis on this site should be help and understanding in the first instance.

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    • January 31, 2015 6:46 PM GMT
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      I could not post at the time Crissie what I wanted to as I was warned to keep away from the member or I would be removed from GS. All I could do was report the post but whether or not my report was taken seriously I have no idea.

       

      Steve was shocked as should anyone be reading that response so all I could do is try to put Steve's mind at rest by stating it is being dealt with.

       

      The former member far outstayed any welcome here . Marceline , the poor 15 year old showed more honesty in one single opening post than the whole time the former member did here at GS. This kind of treatment of a young trans person just saddens meCry.

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      Does anyone know if Marcy was given any kind of apology, explanation, or genuine help before she left? Do we have reason to believe she's okay? This is very disconcerting and upsetting wondering what state she may have been in when she left and I really hope she's okay.
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    • February 20, 2015 8:13 AM GMT
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      Hi Madeleine.

      The former member did not know how to say sorry. Marcy a 15 year old apologised for being honest , another thing the former member never knew what the meaning of the word is (honesty). Marcy's account was closed very fast and I do not know how it was closed . I do know her final post was above on the 6th of December , the same day she joined GS.

       

      I was sickened by the treatment of such a young girl from a member who always said they were a teacher. Ignorant words like that could push a young person over the edge if their mind is in a mess and we all know how that feels. I only wish I could have given her some support but as you know if I had responded here in this thread I would have been the one removed from GS.

       

      This must never ever be allowed to happen again. I try to keep my eyes on everything that goes on here and I will speak out if I see a wrong. In this case I could say nothing and all I could do was report the post.

      Above are two former members , one was in their 60s and the other just 15 years old. It is very easy to see which one had some manners and even respect , a very good sign that the children of today are not all bad. Some adults should never be allowed near children and I may just let the former members employer know what this person is really like. I have the evidence and I know who to send it to.

       

      Take care , x

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      There are different kinds of apologies, and it wouldn't necessarily have had to come from the 'former member'.
      The young girl here needed to know that the response she received was all wrong. She needed caring and a little guidance and a proper explanation as to why we are not able to offer her membership.
      Again, it's very disconcerting to imagine how she left and not know she's okay.
      Perhaps we need a better way to prevent underage individuals from joining (I'm not sure that age restrictions are even mentioned in the membership enrollment process? ...or are too easy to miss?) while also providing them with a positive and supportive message to help them along to where they can find help.
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      There were only two active mods at the time, Marissa and myself, we cannot be here 24/7,   She was here and gone before I logged in to check reports.    So not able to get her email address.     People wonder why youngsters kill themselves,    Leelah springs to mind, Oh! if only she had found this place, and we were able to give her links and help in a positive way, to seek out secondry confidental help she obviouslt needed. in this instance a fool, made outrageous statements, brusque and needless remarks.    I think I was able to pass on a message to a mutal friend of hers who is a member, giving my personal email and apologies, so far heard nothing back.    We have a set procedure and standard letter format for instances for people like this, offering links to specialist charitable, registered sites.    The rules are simple

      yes they might be a troll, whatever, but the first consideration must be that they state they are underage, this must be the imporatant factor, and given suitable, direction and friendly advice. if they turn out to be a troll and stay, we can kick them out anyway. I would love the site to be able to cater for underage, but we do not have the resources they need, one of the reasons they cannot stay here, is they are vunerable and likely to be given the wrong advice and treated badly by a troll, which in this case happened.

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    • February 20, 2015 10:04 PM GMT
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      I have read through Marcy's first post a few times and I would say it looks like a genuine cry for help. The thing that concerns me is that , if this was her first attempt at joining a Transgender site she now knows she has to lie about her age to gain entry. So where did she go? If she did and most likely did look for another one. It is highly unlikely she would find one like this , she would have ended up on dating sites. The dangers there to a 15 year old I hate to think about.

       

      There have been two more since Marcy and I have just asked them to stay untill they are contacted . One I was very concerned about and I told her to avoid any contact with any member not displaying an image and for your own safety do not give out your personal contact details to anyone , just wait to be contacted by a member of the team. I am lost Frown this just saddens me and there is nothing I can do to stop it happening again. At least the former member cannot put me in corner again and prevent me from joining in a forum topic or post on the home page. I will just keep my eyes open. I do not miss much that goes on here.

       

      Take care x

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      Does'nt matter weather they are genuine or not, its important that we treat them as if they are genuine, give suitable links, if they are underage they get the help and links they need and are regretfull removed from GS, if  they are not genuine and a troll they get the advice and sent packing anyway,  better to er on the side of caution.

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    • February 20, 2015 10:34 PM GMT
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      I know Crissie but some give the game away from the start. I should have stepped in here at the start. I should have put my membership here at risk and done the decent thing , I failedFrown.

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      You are correct Crissie and to be clear, I'm not blaming anyone for not catchng this sooner.
      I just wish we had the resources to find a better way to prevent situations like this...
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    • February 20, 2015 11:13 PM GMT
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      I have edited my post above , I failed Marcy it is as simple as that.

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      You needn't blame yourself Julia.
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      Hopefully Marcy could tell what she was dealing with and while still very unpleasant, put it in perspective. She's probably bright enough to realize how ridiculous a statement like "I think if you said you were 18 when you joined that puts you in a bind legally." actually is...
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    • February 20, 2015 11:35 PM GMT
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      Hi Madeleine.
      I should have looking back now stood up for Marcy and if Katie thought it fit for me to have my account closed for doing so then she is making this site is worthless and all it stands for.
      Take care x
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      I often feel I have failed here, its the very nature of this type of site, but if you help one person, thats a big plus, stop beating yourself up.    Perhaps I should of been here to sort it out, but being practible, thats just not possible.   We all do what we can when we can.

       

      If Katie had to get involved or even had the time to be involved with every little squable, problem other stuff would'nt get done and she would have no life at all, if she di'nt care there would be no site.

      This post was edited by Cristine Jennifer Shye. BL at February 21, 2015 12:42 AM GMT
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      Ok...here's my two cents worth.

      I originally commented on this after seeing it on the front page of GS. What did surprise me is no one else stood up for Marcelline and thats why I joined in the convo.  I hadnt been on GS long but I had been here long enough to work out that Chalice and their opinions/posts were not particularly valued, so someone needed to stand up.

       

      I do find it unusual that there seems to be a little too much talk of Marcelline being a troll.  Im admin for a few sites related to my recreational interests and usually any trolls that try to drop in and spoil the party, make their intentions and motivations immediately obvious. They are also unceremoniously cut off at the knees and banned. Marcellines post does not strike me to be that of a troll at all.

      Yes she broke the age limit rules but when I tried to find them as a guest member, the site wouldnt allow me access to them

       

      And heres a copy of the message I sent to her ...  

      • Hi Marceline
        I would be inclined to ignore anything that Chalice has posted in your introductions topic. I have only been here a relatively short while and have already worked out that she isnt a nice person.
        Im sorry you have had to endure her bitterness.
        If you have any questions direct them to Marissa.
        She will no doubt help you.
        hugs Steve
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        Well, it IS an 18+ website... (which, i didn't know signing up) so, i'm probably going to be kicked off/banned sooner or later... but that's okay I guess. I just joined this website because I didn't have that many people to talk to about this sort of thing IRL. I think Chalice thinks that I'm trying to bum estrogen off of someone, which, after re-reading my post, i can kind of see where she's coming from, however, that wasn't my intention for coming here.

       

      December 7, 2014
      Nah.....the way I see it is that you were just being nice, saying hullo ,and filling peeps in on where your at. Having something to share, is what this place is all about. Helping someone I is probably why we are all here.
      Having your integrity questioned in your very first post is not pleasant.
      Being trans isn't easy anytime and one would in the very least expect to find a sympathetic ear and acceptance here,
      I am a little disappointed that one of theods hasn't spoken up. Have they contacted you?
      The age thingy is something else but its not the main issue here.
      My issue is how rudely you were treated.
      May I suggest adding a further post to your topic saying just what you have told me........which is you here to find some like minded peeps to talk about your journey.
      cheers Steve
       
       
       
      Anyway if any good is to come from this then if any younger members drift on here then contact isnt lost and they are pointed in the right direction
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      Steve, we have in the past had people pretending to be very young, the important thing is to treat people like this with dignity and help, on the understanding they might be genuine, if they are not, nothing lost nothing gained, if the are genuine underage, they get the relevant information in a kind and sensative manner so nothing lost and everything gained.

       

      If people pretend they are underage, then they are either stupid or trolls and thats why I mentioned troll, but defference and respect must be shown by everyone until they prove they are trolls   I can't make is any simpler.

      This post was edited by Cristine Jennifer Shye. BL at February 22, 2015 1:32 AM GMT
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    • February 21, 2015 12:39 AM GMT
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      I was online when this was going on. I was warned by Katie that if I responded to The person calling themself Chalice Brendale in anyway or form I will be removed from GS with no further warning. I still say I should have ignored Katie and done the decent thing and stood up for Marcy.

       

      Thank you so much for caring Steve , and all in this thread that have shown where we go wrong and how we can fix it .

       

      You all take care xxxx

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