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    • April 11, 2019 6:49 PM BST
    • I will miss Mere ! We spoke on infrequent occasions, but I always checked in on her

      to see how she was doing.  She was an author, who wrote mostly historical books,

      with my favorite being her book on Jazz history.  You can find her books on Amazon,

      under her pen name Mitchell Newton.

       

      Her move from Chicago to Denver was good for her.  That is where she met her love Josie.

      She blossomed in Denver, and was working at the Natural History museum and later the 

      Molly Brown house (of which the movie "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" was based).

      Unfortunately, as many TG Women know, it is easy to fall into a dependence on Alcohol.

      This coping method was hard on her, on Josie and their life together.  It was with deep sadness

      that I discovered she had passed.  The world lost a professor, a historian, and a wonderful woman

      struggling to make sense of a complicated life we in the TG community have to lead. She is now free and in

      God's hands now.   Take care Mere, and know that there are those who remember you.

      Michelle

    • March 15, 2019 9:36 PM GMT
    • Gosh I remember her. We didnt really say much to each other. So cannot say i knew her other than a passing comment here and there. However its sad news for any one to pass let alone someone from the old guard. My heart goes out there.

    • March 2, 2019 4:37 PM GMT
    • I was so upset when I heard about Mere passing on at the end of December.   It was so sad and so unnecessary.

      It was good to see all those old names and faces I used to know on here ages ago and it was nice to chat with some of you too.  I haven't forgotten any of you.  It's just a shame that something like this had to happen to bring us all back together again.

      Hugs,

      Katie  x

       

    • February 3, 2019 12:39 PM GMT
    • Thank you for letting us know Robyn. Anyone who knew Mere will miss her. She was a great personality from the old days at TW and I believe she was the first person I ever spoke to in the chat room in those days. 

      I haven't been around for a very long time and the last I heard, she was doing okay in Chicago and was still with Josie. It's such a shame that this happened but is a powerful message to us all about the difficulties that being transgendered brings. 

      My thoughts go out to her child(ren). 

    • January 16, 2019 5:21 AM GMT
    • thanks for letting me know Robyn. Been out of the loop for a wile now, couldn't even sign in on my old account. After 8 years I hung up my uniforms again and retired with the rank of Captain. I will check in from time to time.

    • January 9, 2019 2:45 PM GMT
    • I heard the dreadful news a few days ago and its not yet sunk in. I''d known Mere ever since i joined back in the old TW days & i used to call her all the time. I still remember that 1st phone call back in 04. At the time i was having a wee bash at my place and a few of the TW girls including Mandy Walker and Christina Dearlove who were here. Mere got to speak to all of us that day and it is something i've never forgotten :(

    • January 8, 2019 9:26 PM GMT
    • She`ll be missed. I knew her since trannyweb days. I knew she was dealing with depression. She was happy I saved her once. Now she is taken away.

      r.i.p Meredith

    • January 8, 2019 2:27 PM GMT
    • Very saddened to hear about Meredith's passing...what terrible news...and on Christmas Day.  I remember her from when I first joined here many years ago...wish I'd gotten to know her a bit better.  Prayers to all her family and friends...may she rest in peace...

      Monika

    • January 6, 2019 5:36 AM GMT
    • Its  been  a  very  long  time  since I  ve  been  here  on  GS but  as a  member  from 2008  I  do  recall Mere  and  she will  be  missed  by  All  who knew  here . Its  sad  to think that such  a  death has  happened  this way   I  will  remember  her  and  the  good  spirit she  always was  in . 

    • January 3, 2019 10:20 AM GMT
    • I will PM you my number.  Give me a call.  It's time we did some catching up.

    • January 3, 2019 6:27 AM GMT
    • This is terrible news. I’m so sorry. Thanks for letting us know Robyn.

      Was Mere still together with her partner? She must be devastated.

      Last time we were in touch Mere was working at a museum in Chicago. It sounds like a lot has happened since then.

      This is so sad.

      Katie

    • January 1, 2019 10:59 PM GMT
    • I am back in Baltimore, after living in a couple of other places.  Sorry for my long absence.

    • January 1, 2019 9:28 PM GMT
    • Yes Mere & I were very close friends. But she started keeping things from me. I didn't know how bad things were. She had lost everything that mattered to her. 

    • January 1, 2019 7:36 PM GMT
    • I remember from trannyweb MEREDITH and KAREN BRAD use to talk a lot together. I also remember you ROBYN. I think you where from Baltimore.

    • January 1, 2019 11:04 AM GMT
    • Meredith passed away on Christmas day in Kansas City, KS.  Circumstances surrounding her passing are unclear, but here is what we know.

      Authorities have classified the death as an overdose.  While she was not a drug user, she had been drinking heavily, so it's likely that alcohol poisoning was the specific cause of death.  As some may be aware, she had been working at a Walgreen's store, where she finally felt free to express her identity.  She very much enjoyed working there, but she was abruptly terminated on or around Christmas.  As you can imagine, she was devastated.

      I don't know what to say, except that it is so sad that another person in our community who had so much talent and potential will not live to see the promise of the new year.

    • December 31, 2018 7:37 PM GMT
    • I only just found out. I guess she passed on Christmas Day.

    • April 2, 2019 5:11 PM BST
    • Yeah but it's good to remember that sometimes you can't fix stupid.

    • April 2, 2019 2:35 PM BST
    • Ignorance, bigotry and stupidity among the Piers Morgan types is understandable but someone within our own community a so called spokes person, someone who should know better, be more erudite on the subject should not include others from the same community in her banal and inane statements.

    • April 2, 2019 8:29 AM BST
    • Sad to say there has been a consistency of self superiority and judgement in the UK media toward Transgender people over the last 50 years at least.Little has changed since I first saw Jan Morris on TV way back when.The framing of questions,”Is it Right that ...Transgender should ...?”Let’s have a debate on what Transgender people should be allowed.-Let’s make the Alan Titchmarsh judgement of which Transgender people are more passable than others.But of course the media will claim balance by issuing a token “did she do well”to a minority of Transgender people.My hope is Transgender people are treated as equally part of human diversity and respected.

    • March 22, 2019 11:31 AM GMT
    • Quite so, Cristine.

      And then of course we have the Piers Morgan types who go around deriding people for "choosing to become a woman".

      People who have no understanding of a condition should not go around speaking like they are some sort of authority on the subject.

    • March 22, 2019 11:01 AM GMT
    • Murray quoted Jenny Roberts, 72, who transitioned more than 20 years ago, on whether trans women should be considered “real”.

      “I’m not a real woman,” is the first thing she said to me in a recent conversation. 

      “I understand that a lot of trans women want to believe they are women, but we’re not.”

       

      Everyone is entitled to state their personal feelings on how they perceive themselves, but should not make inclusive statements for the rest of us, I was female before I was born,

    • March 21, 2019 9:18 AM GMT
    • I find it rather irritating when a newspaper columnist attempts to "analyse" the transgender condition, and in doing so quotes a vicar turned TG celebrity talking about dresses and make up, and uses this drivel to equate the mentality and motivations behind all of us.

      "It's not about dresses and make up..."

      Good grief; not exactly imaginative. And of course she has to remind us of our supposedly inevitable male privilege, no way we can ever be a true woman when we've had a taste of that.

      To me, male privilege would have been about as welcome as my daily shaving rash.

      Many of us have had a past of bullying and ridicule for being the shy, effeminate ones. Is this our male privilege that prevents us from ever being "real women"?

    • March 19, 2019 10:28 PM GMT
    • Oh boy.  Radio 4 shows how many pillocks are still with us.

       

      On the other side of the coin, Radio 2 had a good discussion on this last Friday.  Worth catching up on I player.

    • March 18, 2019 7:06 PM GMT
    • https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/mar/05/jenni-murray-transgender-not-real-women-sunday-times-magazine

      One needs to read the link, I can't be arsed to apply for the rights to re-publish the article.

       

      Firstly they need to be familiar with other posts I have made on inherited conditions, just because a person is born with a visible sex distinction, (genitalia) from which a determination of birth registration is made (sex @ birth) in the case of trangendered people this can be misleading.    One has only to be familiar with conditions, for instance

       

      Klinefelter's syndrome, 47, XXY, or XXY syndrome is a condition in which human males have an extra X chromosome.   

       

      Reifenstein's Syndrome, Most forms of AIS involve a variable degree of undervirilization and/or infertility in XY persons of any gender. A person with complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) has a female external appearance despite a 46XY karyotype and undescended testes, a condition once called "testicular feminization" a phrase now considered both derogatory and inaccurate. Since 1990, major scientific advances have greatly expanded medical understanding and management of the molecular mechanisms of the clinical features of AIS.

       

      CNS Brain male feminisation, The medial posterior region of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTMP) and the locus coeruleus (LC) show opposite patterns of sexual dimorphism. The BSTMP in males is greater in volume and number of neurons than in females (male N female) while in the LC, the opposite is true (female N male). To investigate the possible role of the androgen receptor (AR) in the masculinization of these two structures, males with the testicular feminization mutation (Tfm) were compared to their control littermate males. No differences were seen in the number of neurons of the BSTMP between Tfm and their control littermate males, while in the LC, Tfm males have a greater number of neurons than their control littermate males. These results show that the AR is involved in the control of neuron number in the LC but not in the BSTMP. Results based on the LC suggest that when females have a larger brain area than males, masculinization in males may be achieved through the AR, with androgens perhaps decreasing cell survival.

       

      Sex differences in the mammalian brain have two main characteristics: they often occur in neural circuits related
      to reproductive physiology and behaviour and they are seen in two opposite morphological patterns In one
      pattern, males have greater volumes and/or number of neurons than females (male N female), while in the other, the opposite is true (female N male) Existing evidence suggest that gonadal androgens are involved in the development of sex differences in structures that are larger in males than in females.

       

      New born babies rarely have DNA or chromosome tests for mutant genes unless their are obvious visible defects, this also applies to brain scans, so how can people make judgements as to the legal recognition and acceptance of people who were incorrectly labelled at birth who later decide they are the wrong gender.

       

      https://gendersociety.com/articles/176/the-science-behind-reifenstein-s-syndrome

      https://gendersociety.com/forums/topic/9870/cns-brain-male-feminisation

      https://gendersociety.com/forums/topic/7790/synopsis-of-the-etiology-of-gender

      https://gendersociety.com/forums/topic/7805/heteronormativity

       

       

    • March 15, 2019 9:41 PM GMT
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      Sadly I cant read it. I would Perhaps recall from the good ole trannyweb days.

      I dont think there is many of us left now from the early 2000,s

    • January 1, 2019 10:57 PM GMT
    • Sadly, yes.  She passed on Christmas day in Kansas City, MO.

    • January 1, 2019 7:28 PM GMT
    • wow,not Meredith I hope

    • January 1, 2019 5:00 PM GMT
    • Mere?  Passing?  You mean Meredith Newton?  Have I missed something?

    • January 1, 2019 11:12 AM GMT
    • Wow....I think I remember this......back when I was sort of a "watcher."  With Mere's passing, I think about all the others we've lost over the years.  Glo, Briony, and now Mere.....

       

      It makes me remember how special Trannyweb was.  Yes.  I said Trannyweb!

    • October 27, 2018 7:57 PM BST
    • I don't remember this either.I think I became a member in 1999 under another name

    • January 28, 2019 10:45 PM GMT
    • It really depends on the source. I can wear anything from XL to 5XL and the clothes would match up identically from size to size. It's just the way the fabricator decided what size is what size. For example, and not trying to be sterotypical, Asian manufacturers are typically designed with Asian women in size and there XS would be like a girl's M or L, not lady's. Just keep that in mind if you're ever going to be ordering online. Check where they are shipping from as you most likely won't get the right size if you compare what you buy in shops if they're overseas.

    • January 25, 2019 5:11 PM GMT
    • yes, I also wear shoes size 10 (even 9, if they're sandals). I have over 100 pairs of shoes!

    • January 24, 2019 1:46 PM GMT
    • You're lucky!

    • January 24, 2019 11:02 AM GMT
    • god I think I am blessed because I am a perfect woman size M

    • January 22, 2019 5:50 PM GMT
    • When I bye women's clothes I'm about 18-20 or L-XL 

    • November 20, 2018 2:51 PM GMT
    •  Really late reply but I just want to add something for anyone reading.  I have found that women's sizing is all over the board, my cisgender wife even has a hard time.  Find a good store with great customer service and try everything you can on before you buy.  I have gone into a few stores in male mode and they will let me try on anything.

    • December 24, 2018 9:26 PM GMT
    • Happy Holidays to all, who ever you look to for spiritual fulfilment xx

    • December 24, 2018 8:32 PM GMT
    • And happy birthday Mithra.  Lots of merriment and celebrations for all.

       

      Alice

    • December 19, 2018 2:08 AM GMT
    • this is Trump's Evangelical Advisory Council at work. It is why he pushed for Trans ppl out of the military.

    • December 8, 2018 12:06 PM GMT
    • There are many facets to this narcisists personality. As a sociopath, he cannot bring himsdelf to believe the truth but rather what passes through his head at the time, hence, made up stories and lies. It's about him satisfying his own self, no one others. Only he matters in his mind and all others should accept everything he says, regardless of his logic. Yes, he hates. He is a bigot, a liar, an opportunists, a racist, a white supremist. He will be removed when possible, and things will reverrt back to how it was prior to his becoming President. Any policy he has participated in is simply a renaming of an old policy with a few minor changes but mostly, nothing changed but the name he chose. He is incapable of creating any policy because his self interests get in the way. Be patient, he will soon disappear somewhere.

          

    • December 4, 2018 11:25 PM GMT
    • That is a made up story that Don Trump wants to eradicate LGBT people. So many in our community fall for this every time it's trotted out. Voting for the Dems just took away the tax break we got thanks to the Trump administration. The so called "leaders" of our community prefer to have Hillary Clinton which is a damned shame and would be worse president than Obumbles. Lack of patience is problematic as so many in our group want it now. Sad that they can't show some self restraint.

    • November 13, 2018 7:42 PM GMT
    • This is a message from a friend about what this mid term stuff means, along with some other stuff:

       

      Well, kinda sorta, as kids say ...
       
      There are two important points about the House of Representatives, one general and one specific. The general is that much of the day-to-day work of operating a country is done by the House committees. House of Representatives Committees If you scan the list, you'll see the actual "nuts-and-bolts", including those items the Republicans scream most about -- Homeland Security, Foreign Affairs, and Taxes (the oddly named "Ways and Means"). Also the Budget. Then ones they soft-pedal, like Education, the Judiciary, and especially Oversight and Government Reform (something the Republicans desperately want to avoid).
       
      So there's greater control of the purse strings, and which child gets their proper allowance, so to speak. Among the Republican strategies has been to quietly cut funding, disallow increases, etc. from programs like Veterans Affairs, divert the money elsewhere (like building bombers) and weep crocodile tears about how they tried to help our veterans but the mean old Democrats wouldn't let them. The playground analogy (surprisingly applicable with their party) is Tom hitting Charlie, then Tom grabs his cheek and yells to the teacher that Charlie hit him. If Charlie says "No, Tom hit me" Tom says "Only because you hit me first" (a lie). Of course, in a playground, other kids are around and could see Tom hit Charlie, and tell the teacher the truth. With the Republicans in control of all the committees (as they have been for years) it was hard to track where the money was being diverted, which programs were cut, and if Democrats on the committees cried foul, they were overruled. That changes now, and it can have tremendous positive changes for the country and world; fingers crossed.
       
      But the specific point is that the House of Representatives -- and only the House -- has the power to impeach. Not the Senate, and not the Department of Justice or Supreme Court, despite Trump's attempt to pack both with slavish followers. In fact, much of our Constitution is general and vague about what this means or how that word was supposed to be taken, but is remarkably detailed on this matter. There are only two instances of the phrase "sole power" in the entire document. The House "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment", and that "the Senate shall have the sole power to try all Impeachments".
       
      The average person thinks "impeachment" means "kicked out of office" but it's an indictment; only the Senate can convict (unlikely with a Republican majority -- and they hate and fear a Pence presidency, allegedly). However, it gelds the Presidential powers somewhat -- as if anything could with Trump -- but like any indictment, it opens up Trump to investigations that wouldn't be possible without a Bill of Impeachment. And it sends a clear signal to Americans and the world.
       
      People are saying "Now the House is going to demand his tax returns" but no doubt they were acquired by the Mueller investigation within its first month. A note about that, and I'll get off my soapbox: The Mueller team is comprised largely of seasoned veteran prosecutors and investigators who specialized in organized crime. We have the nicely named "RICO", the Racketeer Influenced and Criminal Organizations Act, largely responsible for taking down the Mafia, corrupt labor union bosses, and so on. The Mueller team is not political operatives, angling for jobs as lobbyists, as Congress largely does. So what do you do first when you go after the Mafia? You follow the money. 
       
      There's no doubt that the Mueller investigation will have (or already has) proof of criminal activities by Trump and his family. The big question is, what happens then? 
       
      And that's just about enough of that! 
       
      One final bit; overshadowed somewhat by the Democrats taking the House was the large number of women, minorities, and various sexual orientations elected at all levels, country-wide. We should be especially proud of that!
       

    • November 13, 2018 7:12 AM GMT
    • A lot of folks reacted over this.......Exactly what Mr. Dump wanted. Equality is not a presidential thing.  It's more of a common wealth sort of thing.  Mr. D doesn't know that yet, but he will........

    • November 8, 2018 1:25 PM GMT
    • The people have spoken during the Midterms. It is the beginning of the end for Trump!

    • November 5, 2018 11:54 PM GMT
    • the great thing beyond the Clown is truth, science, reason, reality, and many many people with hearts and common sense in the US. There are many already pivoting to counter the Clown - some 1600 scientists have signed on to talk about the absurdity of this, many organizations are looking to launch law suits, and of course many protests to keep our voices heard. His time in office is limited much like his mind and fortunately there are many ways to counter ignorance and stupidity. Love always wins.
      I am the girl I am regardless of the Clown. 
      hugs, Briana : )
       

    • October 28, 2018 9:48 PM GMT
    • Worrying.  I am so glad that I do not live in the land of the free and home of the brave.  But then America does not have the greatest human rights record.  I am surprised, since they still have the death penalty in some states, that we are still dealing with then.  Mind you, 11 surface fleets helps in that regard.

       

      ;)

    • December 9, 2018 2:50 PM GMT
    • Rating : 4.5/5

      Positive:
      + Self adhesive back
      + Natural feeling shape/material/look
      + contoured back
      + Excellent quality and presentation

      Negatives :
      - Somewhat expensive
      - Adhesive not strong enough to go bra-less
      - Semi puckered nipple may not be to everyone's tastes

      Overall:
      One of my better breast form investments over the years with excellent quality and a self adhesive back allowing for ore flexibility forwhat you wear under your clothes.

      Review :
      I've owned a few forms over the years including a pair of Helena forms (attached with a triangular piece of velcro), a pair of Amolux self adhesive forms and severeal cheaper brands. I have large A cup natural chest size so finding forms that fit properly has been a bit of an dilemma. Pictures ina dvertisements I ahve found a bit misleading and trying to get the edges to disappear has never worked for me (especially on the tear drop and triangle shaped forms as the top edge/corner tends to stick up off my chest).

      Not anymore......

      At first sight......& touch
      These come in a lovely double sides box (to put extras underneath) that's about the same size as a pair of knee high boots. This does present a problem for travelling as you will likely want to keep the forms in the moulded plastic for protection during transit. So for those of you who travel frequently you might want to maintain a more travel friendly option.

      I ordered medium and upon opening the box thought I'd purchased them too large  but this impresion has to do with the moulded plastic the breast forms sit on. Shape is nice and the nipple looks quite realistic. Feeling them is a little disconcerting at first as the material has a different consistency to what you might be used to with traditional silicone forms. There's no plastic covering (which means they are more of a matte luster). The texture I can't quite describe properly but it's a little like feeling a bag of naturally wet clay. You can poke and prod them and they will return to their normal shape but they aren't as "bounce back" in the consistency that a pair of silicone forms usually has.

      Getting them on...
      They do require a little bit of preparation including anti-perspirant (provided in the box) and you can use the provided wipes to produce a bit more stickiness on your skin (which you may want depending on what you are wearing). So I'd say allowing 30-45 minutes for preparation including a bit of time to allow them to settle with a bit of pressure placed on them (lying on your back).

      They fit very well on me and the seams are almost invisible except that the skin tone doesn't quite match mine (for the price it's a bit of a shame you can't select your own skin tone). I came out as a large C so I'm happy with the result in terms of size as well (my Amolux ones were too big and therefore hopeless for remaining attached).

      Getting fitted...
      So what about walking around with a bra (or without one... L) )?
      Bra choice is wide open here, I think you could evven get away with a 1/4 cup bra if you so desire. The forms wills tay put so long as you have some amount of pressure on them such a bandeau type shaper will suffice. Any relatively tight dress will hold them in place (and leave your nipples for everyone to see also). Personally I prefer a balcony/balconette/1/2 cup bra with these and they come out nicely with the top part of the forms being visible. Dresses with sweetheart cut necklines become a reasonable possibility if you have the confidence. A non-wired bra is also very comfortable with these and once in your bra they provide a slight "sag" to the bottom edge providing a good and rounded out appearance (as opposed to the often full perky sticking out of you chest and defying gravity you sometimes encounter with other forms).

      You can sleep in these but unless you lye flat on your back all night you will likely need a sleeping bra under your nightie/pj's.

      Swimming???
      I can't say how successful they would be but definitely not in a skimpy, no support, bikini. Something like a tight and supportive one piece swimsuit might work however.....

      Are you excited?
      Nipples on breast forms are a little contraversial and some people like them and others don't. There are various benifits to having separate nipples but we won't go into those here. These forms have nipples so like a woman you will have to deal with the consequences.... :)

      They are crafted in a lsightly puckered style which provides a nice feel. They are pretty good size wise (not overly large or really small) but be warned... They will stand out if you wear a tight dress/top and no bra (or a sheer one). Invest in a decent t-shirt bra like any good girl :) (or not if you're that way inclined).

      Good for wearing with...
      A lot of clothes will work these. Even the lower cut type of tops and dresses (sweetheart, empire and other low cut styles are feasible). Strappy or tight strapless numbers are possible but if you're planning to wear and hang a heavy strapless ball gown off your new assets then I wouldn't recommend (you'll likely end up with the dress and your tits around your ankles).

      Final comments
      I really like these and I only have a couple of whinges in relation to the inability to choose skin tones to match (see Realbreast if you wish for this) and the fact that you probably can't go full braless although it will work with something that generates a bit of pressure. They are the most natural feeling and "part of you" forms I've had the pleasure of owning and are comfortable to wear for extended periods of time.

    • December 3, 2018 3:53 PM GMT
    • Hi everyone!

      Its been a long time since I last posted but that's cos little has changed since May. Still waiting for my Leeds gender Clinic slot and still on the herbs with 3 monthly liver / kidney blood tests courtesy of my GP and still xdressing in the house. At least I have now got a proper A cup chest and my body hair growth is thinning right down which is nice. Da wife suggested I got my ears pierced (which I haven't had the nerve to do) and also that I grow my hair out. After some months its now starting to grow past the "yuck, can't do anything with it stage"and am wondering what to do with it regarding a softer unisex hairstyle? (Although it is rather thin for comfort on the crown it is acceptable as I'm 6' 1" so most people can't see and the boss / wife has told me she will call a halt should I start to look like something from Status Quo! - I'm hoping it will thicken when I finally get on proper hormones.) Anyway I am going to have to go to a proper stylist soon to bring it under control so the questions are:

      1. Does anyone know any Trans friendly hair stylists in the Chester / Manchester / Merseyside area?

      2. Any good websites for unisex style ideas for middle aged wavy fair / grey hair?

      Hope you guys have some ideas as this is rather new (career short back and no sides before retirement although it was somewhat more relaxed at university)!

      Robyn xxx

    • November 24, 2018 10:17 PM GMT
    • Why is it that English people think they are so gracious and well mannered, its a fallacy, I have travelled in quite a few countries.    eg train stops in between stations, in LA, Miami, wherever, an announcement is made, ''sorry for the delay, someone has jumped in front of the train.   In most countries people start up a conversation, ''It is such a shame that people get so desperate, they resort to this type of thing, hope they are OK, such a shame, and OMG what will their families, feel''

      In London the typical conversation is ''Some people are just inconsiderate bastards FFS jumping in front of a train, now I'm gonna be late for work''

    • November 24, 2018 3:02 PM GMT
    • https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/moped-crime-phone-snatching-robbery-london-police-cars-ramming-crackdown-a8648516.html

       

      At last, and I hope the police do get immunity from prosecution and lawsuits for compensation.

      If someone is mugging me armed with a knife, a police person uses a taser to take down that thug and the thug dies of a heart attack, will I feel any remorse that I was partially responsible for his death? No.   Should the police be made culpable, for not having done a risk assessment, enquiring into that thugs health circumstances and making sure he was not susceptible to violent electric shocks due to a heart condition?   Could the same be  said for the same person being chased down the road fleeing an assault, stabbing, and suffering a fatal heart attack due to over exertion or stress, of course not.

      Already the snowflakes are  saying knocking robbing knife wielding thugs of their bikes could be tantamount to assault, resulting to criminal charges of ABH or GBH being brought against the police.

      Using reasonable force against someone fleeing arrest or resisting arrest, to me this is reasonable force , tit for tat,